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Replying to: palalt (Apr 01, 2008 5:51 pm) I'm looking for about 9 to 12 months out. I've kept my Maxima (bought new) for 16 years. I want to replace it with something a little plusher, hopefully under $30k. I'd still like just the faintest hint of over-the-road responsiveness. Cooled seats would be swell. Real wood, even sweller. I could love the CTS except for one fatal flaw: The console digs into my right leg. The Avalon is ungainly and unpleasing. The Azera is perfect for me except that it's a tad mushy, a bit blocky-looking in front, and the interior materials are just a bit cheesy. The Lexus ES lacks headroom for me, and just isn't enough car for what you pay. The TL is a great car, but too stiff and not roomy enough for my frame. The RL lacks room and costs too much. The Accord looks grotesque outside and cheap inside. The Camry doesn't even make the discussion. I live in the Chicago area. If I may ask, what dealer went so low?
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Replying to: tonycd (Apr 05, 2008 8:32 pm) |
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Replying to: palalt (Apr 08, 2008 8:38 am)
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Replying to: sls002 (Apr 09, 2008 7:16 am) I have to ask. You performed your "first" oil change at 11K? That's not even close to what is recommended!
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Replying to: palalt (Apr 10, 2008 11:00 am) My dealer recommended the first change at the oil monitor's 30% oil life left stage, which was at 11,500 miles. This engine requires synthetic oil for the oil monitor to give the proper oil change interval. Cadillac sent me a coupon to use for the first change suggesting that I do it when the oil monitor request the change (  0%).
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Replying to: palalt (Apr 08, 2008 8:38 am) As for the oil consumption question: I hadn't heard about the V6, but I have read more than once that the Northstar V8 has a chronic problem with leakage around its poorly designed two-piece oil pan. I don't know if this is the reason, but I've seen it suggested that many Northstars don't make it much past 100,000 miles -- which I personally consider, in this day and age (and at these prices), to be unacceptable performance. |
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| I have a 2006 STS with the V-8 and I have had absolutely NO oil usage issues in the 2.5 years that I have had the vehicle. | |
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I test drove an '08 STS 4 (AWD) with the V6. Tan leather, wood dash and wheel, ventilated seats. It was far from comprehensive, just a spin around the block on crappy pavement and a tight turn or two, but I was bummed. I'll preface this comment by saying I love the CTS, but it has one unfortunate deal-killer for me: the console hits my right knee. Minor to some, but hey, I can't amputate to widen my car choices. So palalt really caught my eye when he told of getting the essentially similar STS at sub-CTS prices. My first impression (and second, and third) of the STS interior is that it doesn't come close to either CTS standards or modern ones. The materials are very good, but the design looks very dated and very old-school GM (which it is, I do understand). The left-hand stalk that contains the cruise and every other control on earth is just as confounding as other testers say it is. Even the real wood on the center stack and passenger's dash somehow looks superficially applied, not integral, which undermines its luxury appeal. Beyond this, the interior room is truly disappointing. The console impinges on my right knee almost as badly as the CTS's does. I kidded to the salesman that I wished the multi-adjustable driver's seat moved an inch to the left. I never get why cars like this, with such ample room overall, can have driver's spaces so carelessly laid out that this can happen. (I experienced the same thing with the Avalon's shifter, by the way.) I'm 6'2", and sitting behind myself was an exercise in head-bending, loafer-twisting and knee-banging. The room back there doesn't come close to a Sonata, which is hard to comprehend at this size and price. Up front, I also have to agree with the owners who've complained there's no place to put anything; even the glovebox, with a door that's huge but pancake-flat, would benefit from a pair of simple side panels so you could at least rest something in it. The actual drive, while short, gave almost no cause for complaint. The ventilated seats ventilate. The engine sounds great, is well isolated, and had plenty of pop for the modest requests I made of it. Low-speed cornering is impressively flat if a bit floaty, the steering is numb but accurate with a meaty wheel that felt good in my hands, and the ride was comfortable and controlled. Two nits: Expansion strips were hardly felt but clearly heard, too loudly for the class in my opinion. And I encountered yet another ergonomic glitch once underway, as my right foot kept getting trapped under the gas pedal every time I moved over from the brake. Overall, I thought the basics of engine, suspension and chassis were fully worthy of the luxury class. But all the touch points were so frustrating, it killed the pleasure for me. Given the further uncertainty of the model's sketchy reliability scores, I don't think I personally could be happy knowing I paid to own this car. And I'm a bit sad to say that. |
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OK – I just discovered that the ‘left-over’ 2008 STS V8s at my local Dealer are shown with both an Employee Price AND a further, 'cash back' discount – at least on the 2008 STS & CTS models I just checked.... Makes a fairly well "loaded" 2008 STS V8 with MSRP = $63K Sell = $52K 1SG \ V8 Premium Lux Perf Pkg ( includes Sunroof ? ) Extra cost paint ( red ) Hmmm . . . - Ray Scheduled to drive one tomorrow AM . . . |
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Replying to: tonycd (Apr 05, 2008 8:32 pm) |
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