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#3278 of 3287 Re: Class Action Suit [Bait] by pp2009pp Nov 09, 2009 (10:45 pm)
Replying to: Bait (Nov 09, 2009 8:41 pm) If you have over 30 days in shop, you might be able to claim status depending on the laws in your state.   The rumor is that another update is coming soon but that may be just wishful thinking on the part of those who get all the customer complaints.   The noreverse.org people have it even worse IMO. I don't see any recent updates on a class action suit.   Honestly, if this is 'as designed' it is time to find other designers because none of this stuff shows up in the 3 and 5 sedans that I have driven. It is interesting that you say you have mechanical problems. People were saying that the AT problems are worse in cold weather which seems to point to something more than just sw.   Have you ever tried the MT mode? I haven't found anything on how well that functions in AT as few people who opt for an automatic seem to want to try that out. Replies to this message: Bait (Nov 10, 2009 2:56 pm) pp2009pp (Nov 10, 2009 9:03 pm)
#3279 of 3287 Re: Class Action Suit [pp2009pp] by Bait Nov 10, 2009 (2:56 pm)
Replying to: pp2009pp (Nov 09, 2009 10:45 pm) Nope...they told me to pound salt. I worked with them for a long time, i.e. doing it their way....trying to work within the system. I had service managers admitting to the problem. Of course, one of the reasons they admitted all this to me was out of embarrasment over the way I was being treated...and that treatment seems to be the same as others have received. I had this notion, stupid me, they cared. After all, I wasn't driving a KIA. That's why I've told people to not to waste a second getting legal help. They know how long they can string this out until you are D.O.A. It would take both hands to count the number of cars I would probably have purchased from them in the future. I wonder who the marketing genius is at BMW. Replies to this message: pp2009pp (Nov 10, 2009 9:03 pm)
#3280 of 3287 2010s unchanged by lawman1967 Nov 10, 2009 (8:24 pm)
That makes the X3 in its 7th year of production. In other words, if it ain't broke......   Again, 2009 X3 is BY FAR the best new car my family has ever seen, better even than my 2009 Mercedes C300. ZERO DEFECTS, ZERO ISSUES, TERRIFIC DRIVE!!!! Replies to this message: pp2009pp (Nov 10, 2009 9:07 pm)
#3281 of 3287 Re: Class Action Suit [Bait] by pp2009pp Nov 10, 2009 (9:03 pm)
Replying to: Bait (Nov 10, 2009 2:56 pm) I agree with your frustration. The X3 is doing nothing to help BMW's image. The suspension problems and the herky-jerky transmission in a premium car are absurd.   I have been driving BMWs for a long time and I wish I had gone with Lexus this time around.   I have heard all the nonsensical statements from the self-proclaimed BMW fans. The reality is that I have driven the 5s and the 3s and the sedans drive NOTHING like the X3. They have transmissions that shift smoothly and firm/sporty but not bouncy suspensions.   Exactly how hard is it for a big manufacturer to make a slightly taller 3 series that drives like it should? They have received lots of bad reviews and now I can see why.   They were supposed to have fixed the suspension in 2005 and then again in 2007 and my 2009 drives like ****. They went to a new transmission in 2007 and supposedly have another (rumor) fix in 2010.   In the meantime, the frustrated customer ends up having to spend an unbelievable amount of time trying to figure out what is poor design and what is actual defect. What a mess.   What a blooming mess.
#3282 of 3287 Re: 2010s unchanged [lawman1967] by pp2009pp Nov 10, 2009 (9:07 pm)
Replying to: lawman1967 (Nov 10, 2009 8:24 pm) What does that matter to those of us who have cars that drive like ****?   You are lucky although if you are comparing it to MB then I will say that isn't much of a comparison. MB has had reliability problems for a long time and I wouldn't touch any of them with a 10 foot pole.   I do not doubt that your car is fine from your perspective but you seem to doubt that other X3's are **** from our perspective. Do you really think we want to waste gobs of time putzing around with brand new cars like this?   I should be able to pick up a new BMW and have it drive perfectly. Sure, there can be a glitch or two but I am talking about the heart of the car: the suspension and the transmission.   Don't even get me start about the window-fogging HVAC.
#3283 of 3287 x3 tranny problem by patc3080 Nov 11, 2009 (5:37 am)
Is there nothing else to do with a tranny troubled 07 x3? Is anything going on regarding a class action suit? I can't believe BMW put out this terrible performing 6 speed auto transmission out for public consumption without some research. Replies to this message: pp2009pp (Nov 11, 2009 12:36 pm) roadburner (Nov 14, 2009 6:14 pm)
#3284 of 3287 Re: x3 tranny problem [patc3080] by pp2009pp Nov 11, 2009 (12:36 pm)
Replying to: patc3080 (Nov 11, 2009 5:37 am) FWIW people seem to be handling this problem individually. Some have said that they made a deal to turn in their malfunctioning AT for an MT or had it bought back in its entirety. I do not know for sure what is true and what is just babbling on the internet.   At any rate, no one can tell me what the difference is between an actual MT and driving the AT in MT mode. If the fault is in the software programming then why not just drive around in MT mode?   No one can tell me either why, if it is a sw problem, the AT supposedly drives worse in colder weather. Nothing much makes sense.   There are many excuses: you don't know how to drive a BMW, it is designed that way, they all drive that way, we can't recreate it, you must be imagining it, it was fixed with the last update in 2007, drive around in SD, etc but no final solutions except to get rid of the car asap.   They do acknowledge there is (was) a problem and, I agree with you, they should have stopped selling the car after the 2007s and gone back to the 5 speed transmission for 2008 and 2009. I have no idea what the 2010s and 2011s are going to have because, heck, that doesn't help us anyway.     Replies to this message: roadburner (Nov 14, 2009 6:14 pm)
#3285 of 3287 Re: x3 tranny problem [pp2009pp] by roadburner Nov 14, 2009 (6:14 pm)
Replying to: pp2009pp (Nov 11, 2009 12:36 pm) At any rate, no one can tell me what the difference is between an actual MT and driving the AT in MT mode.   Well, the MT has three pedals, for one thing...

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