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Re: PP2009PP, U R NOT THE ONLY ONE!! [lawman1967] by pp2009pp
Oct 21, 2009 (9:57 am)
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Replying to: lawman1967 (Oct 21, 2009 8:02 am)

My 2009 X3:
 
- fails to accelerate from a stop.
- surges for no reason on flat roads.
- stops short during deceleration.
- bounces several times for no apparent reason.
- bucks and sways for no apparent reason.
- fails to find R.
- fails to find a gear, goes back and forth causing bucking
- Etc, etc, etc....
 
These are all intermittent problems but now the X3 is developing brand new ones that are unrelated to either the transmission or the suspension.
 
The dealer's answer for the transmission problems - drive in continually in SD mode.
 
What kind of an answer is that for a brand new, seriously expensive car?
 
 
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There is only one answer.... by Bait
Oct 21, 2009 (7:03 pm)
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I'm serious as a heart attack. I've been through this with them. I played their game by their rules and, well, let's put it this way. Would I be posting this if the outcome was pleasant?
 
  The ONLY answer is a Lemon Law attorney. Before you say it, you're right, who the hell wants to go there....but I'm serious....you either get one now or keep sending that check in month after month as your "days in the shop" continue to pile up until they've got you past the point of no return with respect to the law. The dealer has NOTHING to do with BMWNA. Forget the dealer, period. They're independent and will stand firmly that to distance themselves from this issue, and believe me, they know this is an issue as I've had service managers tell me about this problem as well as people on the sales floor, but, they can't do anything about it because the issue is directly with BMWNA.
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Re: There is only one answer.... [Bait] by pp2009pp
Oct 21, 2009 (8:34 pm)
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Replying to: Bait (Oct 21, 2009 7:03 pm)

Exactly what keeps BMWNA or the dealer (who depends on BMW exclusively after all) from claiming that there is NO PROBLEM?
 
The LL kick in after 4 attempts at a fix. If they keep insisting there is NO PROBLEM then they can run out the 12 month clock and wash their hands of this stinking *** car.
 
 
 
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Re: There is only one answer.... [pp2009pp] by MLB6
Oct 22, 2009 (4:34 am)
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Replying to: pp2009pp (Oct 21, 2009 8:34 pm)

Question: "Exactly what keeps BMWNA or the dealer (who depends on BMW exclusively after all) from claiming that there is NO PROBLEM?" Another question again PP?... although not exactly a bad question. What they are REALLY telling you, is that according to BMW head office, the symptoms you have are "common" or "normal" (but doesn't mean they all have them). And if you need to resolve this, you should use LL. But as a dealer, they cannot tell that to you explicitly.
 
PP, Seems like you are so motivated to find the truth, perhaps you can do something about this and REALLY MAKES A DIFFERENCE by writing to Washington. Urging them to start an investigation on what's really behind this behavior from BMW, BMWNA and the dealers.
 
Quote: "If they keep insisting there is NO PROBLEM then they can run out the 12 month clock and wash their hands of this stinking *** car." That's why we've been telling anyone here who would listen, rather then keep asking questions... But no, don't fall into BMW's game plan, and go directly to the LL Lawyers. The lawyers will tell you that while the dealer told you "NO PROBLEM", this will not diminish your rights under the Lemon Laws.
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Re: There is only one answer.... [MLB6] by pp2009pp
Oct 22, 2009 (12:17 pm)
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Replying to: MLB6 (Oct 22, 2009 4:34 am)

There are 38 complaints on the 2007 X3 - not all transmission - on the NHTSA ODI website. That SHOULD be Washington DC. I have no idea what they do with that information other than store it and mull it over.
 
It takes people dying for anyone to take notice. Heart-thumping inability to accelerate, short stopping, almost getting into accidents, etc. simply don't make the grade.
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You're right by Bait
Oct 22, 2009 (7:07 pm)
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It takes people dying for anyone to take notice. Heart-thumping inability to accelerate, short stopping, almost getting into accidents, etc. simply don't make the grade.
 
********And there's your answer!
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Re: You're right [Bait] by pp2009pp
Oct 22, 2009 (9:28 pm)
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Replying to: Bait (Oct 22, 2009 7:07 pm)

What?
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Re: You're right [pp2009pp] by Bait
Oct 23, 2009 (10:32 am)
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Replying to: pp2009pp (Oct 22, 2009 9:28 pm)

What?
 
"What" is death.
 
What's the cost of blowing it off vs. the cost of paying a negligence suit when someone gets killed? Nothing like someone else rolling the dice with my life. Doesn't it give you that nice fuzzy feeling?! I don't think they're going to like the publicity (with all this being dredged up) once that happens.
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Re: There is only one answer.... [MLB6] by woodyww
Oct 23, 2009 (10:40 am)
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Replying to: MLB6 (Oct 22, 2009 4:34 am)

Just ranting about a problem (pp2009pp) in 20-30 posts, but never DOING anything about it, or even acknowledging others helpful suggestions, really makes me wonder.
 
We get it! you got a bmw w/problems, you're Stuck & you're Steamin'. But you're just wasting peoples time here when you don't even consider their suggestions to deal with it, & apparently aren't doing much yourself, besides endless complaining.......Why should anyone here keep trying to be helpful???
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Re: There is only one answer.... [woodyww] by pp2009pp
Oct 23, 2009 (4:41 pm)
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Replying to: woodyww (Oct 23, 2009 10:40 am)

I know what the options are. I'm not expecting people who have no idea what I am talking about to be helpful. I am looking for people who experience what I do and who know what is wrong with the car.
 
Believe it or not, THAT is helpful to me.

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