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Replying to: pp2009pp (Sep 29, 2009 12:31 pm) Ignore pp2009pp, he's one of the vocal (and extremely small) minority who got a lemon. The X3 is a mature product with the bugs long since worked out. I had a new 07 Camry that went through rear brakes in like 5000 miles, REAR brakes. It was an issue with some 07s, and was corrected later on. Do I crap all over the Camry forums complaining that Toyota is selling junk? No, I just understand that not every single car is perfect. Except, of course, for the 09 X3 we bought earlier this year. It is, without a doubt, THE BEST new car we have ever bought. 16,000 perfect, trouble-free, smooth shifting high-performing miles later I am still thrilled with this wonderful vehicle. Forget pp2009pp, you'll love the 09 X3 engine and tranny. |
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Replying to: lawman1967 (Sep 29, 2009 12:59 pm) 1. never driven my car 2. never ridden in my car 3. never looked at my car I am not assuming anything about your car, I take your opinions to be honest. My X3 2009 is the most abysmal drive I have ever experienced. It has the herky jerky acceleration that many people have written about, the nauseatingly bouncy ride that professional reviewers have written about and the strange engine brake that many other people have experienced as a sudden pull back. These are well documented on the X3. Just because you are not experiencing them is meaningless to those of us who do. I suspect you have read the many threads that talk about these issues with the X3 along with the review that said the X3 was the worst car in the BMW lineup or the review that said the X3 had a concussive ride or the review that said the X3 suspension was made of rocks. I do not know for sure if I have a lemon. According to the dealership, my car drives just like the other new X3 in the lot. Do you want to dispute that with the dealership? Please do so. Then maybe they will fix my car. OTOH, if my car isn't different from other X3s then I am really shocked with BMW. 
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Replying to: pp2009pp (Sep 29, 2009 7:42 pm) |
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Replying to: pp2009pp (Sep 29, 2009 7:42 pm) Or, taken it to a good indie bmw repair shop to get a diagnosis, or at least confirmation of your problem (s)? That'd be my advice....... BTW, CR gives the x3 generally good reliability marks, but a giant black mark for the '07's under "trans., minor". (I'd assume "minor" means the trans. isn't totally failing?, not saying I think it's minor).
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Replying to: woodyww (Oct 16, 2009 1:06 pm) The AT work around involves driving in SD (which actually makes the sudden slow down more severe) or, worse, in MT mode all the time. I don't see either being remotely viable. I'm still trying to figure out how the lemon laws work on intermittent problems. I'll give CR a big black mark for calling this minor. It isn't minor and it isn't just in the 2007's either. |
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Simply put, buying a BMW is like rolling a dice, but only once. You could get a six, or to PP and myself, we got one's. That's too bad, and it's the reality. PP you asked too many questions, all the questions you have on the transmission and drive... you are not the only one, and probably not the last. But the problem here is that the answers are already all here in the internet, you just failed to connect the dots. To make the Lemon Law work for you, the LL Lawyer would do all the work for you. Don't worry about intermittent, whether they are all the same or not. The LL Lawyer just need to send a notice to BMWNA and trust me, this saga of your's will be over in no time. Without the LL Lawyer, they won't care less. LL is the ONLY weak spot for BMW. You don't need to know anything, simple as that. We are just interested if you have talked to a LL Lawyer or not. If not, why not?
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Replying to: MLB6 (Oct 17, 2009 7:32 pm)
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Replying to: pp2009pp (Oct 18, 2009 1:15 pm) I don't know why anyone would want to buy a car that has a good possibility of being born with driving issues. And why they would consider buying such a car with so many possibilities of potential future problems down the road? I don't care about the reward of owning a properly functioning BMW when they have such little quality controls over the making of their products, and having problems that cannot be fixed immediately and in the first time. Life is too short to have to have to explain the problems and tolerate the pathetic look on their faces, questioning you "Problems? What Problems?" And life is too short to have to deal with such crappy customer service in a "premium car company". Life is too short to deal with such companies that do not stand behind their products. And would not even come out and DEFEND what they said their company stands for or how their product is supposed to mean what they said it means. You asked: "I don't understand what you mean by asking too many questions" That's because hearing all your complaints, you're still questioning this or that, like whether you can go LL, whether some behavior are "normal" or not. My response: if Lemon Law cannot apply in your situation, I don't know what LL is supposed to be for. LL was made to force carmakers to take back their Lemon Vehicles without the need for the company to answer any questions. Life is too short, go LL or take your loss right away. Questioning is a waste of time.
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Replying to: MLB6 (Oct 21, 2009 7:47 am) I just bought a new Mercedes C300 last month and had to take it back for a few minor issues, which has been the case in every car I've ever owned EXCEPT the X3, which arrived with ZERO DEFECTS and at 18,000 miles remains absolutely trouble-free. Our X3 has been so good that I seriously considered getting another one instead of the Mercedes.
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Replying to: lawman1967 (Oct 21, 2009 8:02 am) - fails to accelerate from a stop. - surges for no reason on flat roads. - stops short during deceleration. - bounces several times for no apparent reason. - bucks and sways for no apparent reason. - fails to find R. - fails to find a gear, goes back and forth causing bucking - Etc, etc, etc.... These are all intermittent problems but now the X3 is developing brand new ones that are unrelated to either the transmission or the suspension. The dealer's answer for the transmission problems - drive in continually in SD mode. What kind of an answer is that for a brand new, seriously expensive car? 
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