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I too have by nyccarguy
Sep 22, 2009 (6:55 pm)
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gushed about how much fun & reliable our '07 X3 has been for the past 2+ years & 37K+ miles. There is NO WAY an SUV should drive like this. The brakes are great, the seats are super supportive, the steering is very direct & communicative. Nudge the shifter to the left (SD) & drop the hammer and you can pretty much pass anyone you want to. The back seat is roomy, we LOVE the panorama roof (standard on out X3, but an option on my Dad's '07 X5 that had an MSRP of $57K). The real ceiling is great too. Never realized how good it is until I drove an Audi A4 Avant without it.
 
The car could use more cargo space. The paint quality stinks (for lack of a better word), it is orange peel city. Blind spots are terrible and outward visibility is poor.
 
Besides scheduled maintenance, our X3 has been in the shop for a check engine light (due to a carbon filter), one of the doors wouldn't unlock with the remote, & a brakelight burnt out.
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pp2009pp by nyccarguy
Sep 22, 2009 (7:11 pm)
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I feel bad you're not liking your X3 so much. The only person I've ever met that didn't like their X3 was an Audi salesman.
 
Part of the ride harshness you may be feeling is because you're coming from a 5 series. It is extremely difficult to replicate the 5 series' balance of ride & handling given its size. My Mom had an '05 E60 530i that was the most trouble free & her favorite car EVER. When the lease was up, the 5ers were a lot more money to lease per month than what she was paying, so she decided she wanted a 3 series. She has no problems with her 328xi, but doesn't like her 3er AT ALL.
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Re: I too have [nyccarguy] by pp2009pp
Sep 22, 2009 (9:22 pm)
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Replying to: nyccarguy (Sep 22, 2009 6:55 pm)

I think the X3 is heading more toward the Audi Q5, more car than SUV. I think they are all headed toward becoming sedans with hatchbacks like the BMW X6. Not very utilitarian IMO but cushier and fancier.
 
What kind of gas mileage are you getting? I'm still around 10-12 in the city but 12 only if I'm paying attention and coasting at times. I may do a decent highway mostly drive soon so I'll see if I can get above the 20.8 I've hit max so far.
 
I haven't seen a paint problem in BMWs in the past. It should last a long time. I found all cars in this range to have bad blind spots. This one really needs a standard back up camera or a blind spot sensor partly because it is so tall.
 
Have you had a problem with your tailgate sticking? I unlock all the doors, press and hold the tailgate button on the key and the tailgate pops open about 1/2" and gets stuck there. It won't open, it won't close. I have to do the unlock again and then I can press the button in the tailgate to open.
 
I haven't heard big problems with reliability. Then again, the oldest has been on the road 6 years or less so it is probably early days yet.
 
I am beginning to think that whatever they did to answer the hard ride criticisms in years past has now led to a wobbly suspension that bounces around under the mildest of conditions. So far I haven't seen a big problem with potholes but smooth, flat streets are a big problem.
 
I wonder what they did and did they go too far.
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Re: I too have [pp2009pp] by nyccarguy
Sep 23, 2009 (7:00 pm)
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Replying to: pp2009pp (Sep 22, 2009 9:22 pm)

The gas mileage calculator is very shall we say...optimistic in our X3. The best way to get results is to figure it out yourself. Our computer says the X3 averages around 18-19 mpg with my wife and her heavy foot driving. Gas mileage has improved since we got the X3. It used to be like 15-16.
 
I've gotten 22 mpg on long straight highway trips.
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Re: Is the X3 really the worst BMW ever? [cotmc] by bruceomega
Sep 24, 2009 (1:45 pm)
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Replying to: cotmc (Sep 21, 2009 10:58 am)

What I CAN say, for fact, is that my wife and I have been very happy with both of our X3 purchases. For an all-weather all-wheel drive SUV, you can't beat the steering, handling, and braking feel of our 2006 X3. It still feels tight as a drum, and it has been trouble-free. Everything about it provides us with a safe and secure feeling, including the capability of quickly maneuvering and avoiding a pending accident. The transmission and the throttle are very responsive. The interior design feels so open. It has a very efficient design.
 
+ 1 for our '06 X3.
 
We've had a couple of problems, which were quickly fixed under warranty, but overall the car has been very reliable.
 
Our only regret is not having the premium sound system. The Logic 7 systems in my previous 3 series and current 5 series are noticaably better.
 
We are interested in replacing it - with the new X3 fitted with the twin turbo I-6!
 
Bruce
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Re: Is the X3 really the worst BMW ever? [bruceomega] by pp2009pp
Sep 24, 2009 (1:56 pm)
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Replying to: bruceomega (Sep 24, 2009 1:45 pm)

The 06 does not have the 6-speed GM6 Automatic Transmission.
 
I do not know how the ride compares to the 2009 as I have not been able to find anything that says what BMW fixed if anything from the original 2004 model.
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Re: Is the X3 really the worst BMW ever? [pp2009pp] by bruceomega
Sep 26, 2009 (7:58 am)
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Replying to: pp2009pp (Sep 24, 2009 1:56 pm)

The 06 does not have the 6-speed GM6 Automatic Transmission.
 
Not sure what you mean by this, as I never said it did.
 
Our '06 X3 has the older engine with a 5 speed AT. We like that a lot, but I think we would like the more powerful engine and 6 speed AT introduced in the '07 model even more.
 
If BMW offers the twin turbo in the new X3, then we would lust after that! My 535Xi has spoiled us.
 
Bruce
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Re: Is the X3 really the worst BMW ever? [bruceomega] by pp2009pp
Sep 26, 2009 (10:00 am)
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Replying to: bruceomega (Sep 26, 2009 7:58 am)

OIC. Yes, you lucked out on the 06. Maybe fewer HP but many fewer potential problems.
 
http://www.allworldauto.com/tsbs/NHTSA__BMW_X3_technical_service_bulletin_286325- .html
 
NHTSA Item Number: 10028464
Service Bulletin #: SIB-12-17-07
Replacement #:
Vehicle/Equipment Make: BMW
Vehicle/Eqipment Model: X3
Model Year: 2008
Mfg Component Code: 103000 POWER TRAIN:AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
Date of Bulletin: 2008-06-01
Date Added: 2009-05-05
Summary: BMW VEHICLE: ENGINE ELECTRICAL SYSTEMS. POOR THROTTLE RESPONSE; LACK OF POWER WHEN ACCELERATING; ENGINE MAY CRANK TOO LONG BEFORE STARTING; LOSS OF POWER AT IDLE OR WHEN SLOWING TO A STOP. E83 (X3) MODELS. *PE
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Re: Is the X3 really the worst BMW ever? [pp2009pp] by bruceomega
Sep 29, 2009 (11:46 am)
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Replying to: pp2009pp (Sep 26, 2009 10:00 am)

pp2009pp,
 
What model year is your X3?
 
I had not been following the transmission issue for awhile as I thought that had been resolved.
 
My conjecture on preferring the engine - transmission in the current X3 over our '06 model was based on having previously owned an '06 330Xi, which I thought had the same engine and 6 speed AT as the current X3, and before that we owned an '01 330Xi, which I believe had the same engine & 5 speed AT transmission as our '06 X3.
 
I never had any trouble with the transmission in my '06 330Xi, and I much preferred it's performance over the '01 iteration. I wonder why the transmission worked so well in the sedan but not in the SAV.
 
Bruce
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Re: Is the X3 really the worst BMW ever? [bruceomega] by pp2009pp
Sep 29, 2009 (12:31 pm)
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Replying to: bruceomega (Sep 29, 2009 11:46 am)

2009 X3.
 
The acceleration is jerky. It starts and stops and then finds a gear. It sometimes cannot move forward for awhile. Sometimes it has trouble finding R. Intermittent problems all.
 
I do not know if you have the same transmission in your 330xi. Do you have an excessively strong engine brake? I have to accelerate into turns now as it will come to a complete stop all by itself. It is worse in SD.
 
Can you decelerate in D while going downhill without brakes? I am curious to see who has the same problems as I do. I find it to be extremely finicky and temperamental.

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