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Replying to: bmwguys (Sep 18, 2009 4:47 am) |
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OMG. Why is it that Google searches just come up with nice reviews? Where are these real stinkers before plunking down tons of money for this  ? These reviews sites are useless. They have so little traffic! Where are the people who know the truth? http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/News/Search-Results/First-Official-Pictures/BMW-X1-- 2009-first-official-pictures/ "Shouldn’t I just buy an X3? Good point. The X3 boasts very similar proportions (it’s 116mm longer, 57mm wider and 130mm taller), but the new X1 usurps its territory, pushing the next X3 up a segment. And, no, don’t be tempted by a dealer desperate to clear old stock – the X3 is the worst BMW currently on sale. Being based on the latest 3-series both inside and underneath (and outside to a certain extent), the X1 promises to be a far finer machine." --- So to add insult to BMW's injury to its longterm customers, the new ones will be so far and above better than these old $45,000 clunkers - which they don't bother to fix but sell anyway without losing a wink of sleep - that the value of the old X3s will fall to ZERO. BMW's is the worst car company in the world as far as I am concerned. BMW X3 Bimmer Bummed.
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Replying to: pp2009pp (Sep 19, 2009 6:01 pm) Did it ever occur to you that most people may actually like their X3s- and that you represent an extremely tiny percentage of people who are unhappy?
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Replying to: roadburner (Sep 20, 2009 9:53 am) We have me and we have you/your wife. That's 50% like (or do you love it) and that's 50% who do not.
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Replying to: pp2009pp (Sep 20, 2009 10:00 am) Let's see... you think the positive reports on Google are misleading and you question the statistical significance of the Edmunds reviews. IIRC even Consumer Reports likes the X3. That said, if tilting at windmills is your thing, go for it...
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Replying to: roadburner (Sep 20, 2009 11:06 am) One must search for specific problems in order to find the reality behind the glossy facade. That has been my experience. If you do not know about the problems before you buy the car then you are SOL. It is hit or miss. It would be nice to have a source that simply listed all the complaints about a single car so that people would have a fighting chance of seeing the list and researching the problems that concern them BEFORE purchase. "Consumer Reports rated the 1971 Pinto below the Vega but above the Gremlin." - wiki. I think CR buys their own cars and tests them which limits them to a small number, one perhaps? I don't know. I also do not know how they deal with commentary after they have issued their report. It may be another case of self-reporting but I do not know. Do you? Two reviews on Edmunds versus thousands of postings about the X3's transmission, ride, etc. mean what to you.
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Replying to: pp2009pp (Sep 20, 2009 12:21 pm) We have a Comments: Consumer Reports/JD Power Rankings discussion - instead of rehashing all that, why don't we get back to talking about the X3?
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Replying to: steve_ (Sep 20, 2009 12:51 pm) On the other hand, we are now on my wife's second CPO X3. The first one was a 2004 3.0i model, and now we have a 2006 model. Before we purchased it last spring, I did my research..., and yes, I was a little nervous about buying a 2007 model, due to the several threads involving 2007 X3 transmission hesitation issues found throughout the internet. Would these threads and this bad publicity have stopped me from buying a 2007 X3? No and Yes... By that, I would have considered a 2007 X3 only if I could take it for an extended test drive, and I would have considered the purchase only from a local BMW dealer. Having said that, I'm guessing the % of '07 X3's which have this issue are well under 10%, especially after having the firmware reprogrammed. But my guess is no better than anyone else's here! And I wouldn't hesitate with a possible future 2008 or 2009 CPO X3 purchase, whether local or out of state. And overall, even Consumer Reports reflects fairly reliable long-term operation for the X3! What I CAN say, for fact, is that my wife and I have been very happy with both of our X3 purchases. For an all-weather all-wheel drive SUV, you can't beat the steering, handling, and braking feel of our 2006 X3. It still feels tight as a drum, and it has been trouble-free. Everything about it provides us with a safe and secure feeling, including the capability of quickly maneuvering and avoiding a pending accident. The transmission and the throttle are very responsive. The interior design feels so open. It has a very efficient design. When we compared the X3 to other SUVs in its class, the X3 seemed to have the most usable interior space -- both for passengers as well as cargo. I emphasize the word "usable", because perhaps the numbers/specs don't reflect this? And, we average about 23mpg on a regular basis!
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Replying to: cotmc (Sep 21, 2009 10:58 am) My experience with a 2004 X3 mirrors yours; I did have an SRS sensor replaced under warranty and I had the transmission firmwear upgraded(it was holding a lower gear too long on uphill runs. I plan to keep it at least another five or so years. |
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My wife has an 09 that we bought new in February and have since driven for 15,000 trouble-free miles. The transmission is a bit more abrupt in its action than the 5-speed automatic on my Mercedes, but it is by no means difficult to drive or in any way unsafe, rather it has sportier programming. This is good in a BMW. It downshifts immediately when you stab the throttle and holds its gears to redline under hard acceleration. Sliding the shifter into sport mode dials it up a notch further, with standard mode being equivalent to sport mode on my car, and sport mode just at another level. Driven gently, it is just like any other well-designed, high-quality automatic. Upshifts are smooth and occur at fairly low RPM to optimize fuel economy and downshifts only occur when needed, which isn't often on the highway given the terrific performance of the new 3.0 liter engine on the 07~09 models. As I've said before, this has to be the best-built new car ever in my family. I've had Toyota, Honda, Nissan and Mercedes and none have equalled the initial quality of the X3. The only vehicle I've ever had come close is a 2007 Ford F-150 pickup truck, but that is a stripped model with nothing on it to cause any trouble. The X3 is a considerably more complex, fully loaded vehicle and thus far, it has been absolutely flawless. Not a single squeak, rattle or imperfection. This car is definitely a keeper.
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