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#3012 of 4185 Re: 2006 Pre Owned BMW X3 3.0 [utexas06]
Dec 11, 2007 (6:57 pm)
On the surface, that does seem like a very good price for a 2006 X3. Just a couple small points:
1) If you know the last 8 digits of the VIN, a BMW service advisor should be able to give you service/repair history for that X3.
2) While I was shopping for a used X3 a few months ago, one dealer (not a BMW dealer) advertised "leather" seats on their 2005 X3 3.0i. Upon closer inspection, I could tell they were leatherette (vinyl) seats, not leather. At first, it's not very easy to tell the difference, because BMW does a good job with their base leatherette seats. I knew these were not leather because I had recently visited a BMW store. If you live in Texas, you probably want to make sure those seats are not black vinyl. They might look fine, but they won't breathe!
#3013 of 4185 OCD Maintenance...
Dec 13, 2007 (9:40 pm)
I don't care what BMW NA recommends, I'm having the ATF and the F/R final drive oil in my wife's 60K mile 2004 X3 2.5 changed next week. I'm hoping to drive it past 200K without any major drivetrain repairs.
#3014 of 4185 Re: OCD Maintenance... [roadburner]
Dec 17, 2007 (2:44 pm)
I don't blame you. Just curious... How long does BMW NA specify for those oil changes? I would have guessed they recommend these fluid changes at an Inspection II (60K) service, but obviously not. Does BMW NA treat these as lifetime fluids??
On a previous topic: Any good suggestions on how I can research BMW TSBs? I'd like to point my Service Rep to the proper TSB involving the window/door seals. I'm taking our '04 X3 in this Thursday morning for service, and I'd like to get the intermittant window noise issue resolved before our newly acquired X3 reaches its 4th birthday. Thanks!
#3015 of 4185 Re: OCD Maintenance... [cotmc]
Dec 18, 2007 (12:23 pm)
I think I can now answer my own question. Looks like the appropriate TSB is SI B 51 28 05, "Window Guide Noise", dated February 2007.
The next question is whether I first try the Tech Protect product you referenced, or should I first ask BMW Service to perform this TSB now? I will probably ask for the TSB...
#3016 of 4185 Re: 2006 Pre Owned BMW X3 3.0 [cotmc]
Dec 18, 2007 (5:44 pm)
In X3's from 2006 and earlier, it is INCREDIBLY easy to tell whether the seats are vinyl or leather. It doesn't take a "close" inspection. There's a "stripe" of very obvious vinyl fabric in the center of both front seats. They're just plain ugly.
In 2007, BMW solved that aesthetic problem.
#3017 of 4185 Re: OCD Maintenance... [cotmc]
Dec 18, 2007 (7:07 pm)
How long does BMW NA specify for those oil changes? I would have guessed they recommend these fluid changes at an Inspection II (60K) service, but obviously not. Does BMW NA treat these as lifetime fluids??
The ATF is to be changed every 100K. Everything else(final drives and transfer case) have "Lifetime" fills.
#3018 of 4185 Re: OCD Maintenance... [cotmc]
Dec 20, 2007 (9:08 am)
I just picked up the X3 from the dealer and the cost for changing the ATF and transfer case fluid came to $207. Not counting tires(4 Pirelli P Zero Nero M+S- $400), it means that the truck's maintenance expense for 2007 has amounted to less than $260.
Just another year of "breathtakingly expensive" servicing costs for my two BMWs...
#3019 of 4185 04 X3- 62,000 mile report
Dec 20, 2007 (9:21 am)
Now that I'm out of warranty, thought I'd report on what maintenance issues my car has undergone. The only issue I've had to pay for was a $487 repair for a leaking crank-case valve. The $2100 passenger airbag sensor failure I got covered under "dealership goodwill" I suspect because my sensor has failed twice so far. The failure of the windshield wiper pump I also got covered under "goodwill". I've replaced the Pirelli tires with a new set of the same at 55,000 miles and am looking forward to reaching at least 100,000 miles before trading in the car for a Series 1 or a hardtop convertible. I think I have one of the first X3s produced (with the rough suspension) but it has been a driving delight.
#3020 of 4185 Re: 04 X3- 62,000 mile report [alaskan_otter]
Dec 20, 2007 (9:52 am)
am looking forward to reaching at least 100,000 miles before trading in the car for a Series 1 or a hardtop convertible.
I'm planning on keeping mine so that my son can drive it when he obtains his license in 4 years. I'm hoping it will survive until le goes off to college.
I think I have one of the first X3s produced (with the rough suspension) but it has been a driving delight.
I agree; I have an early build non-sport and the ride is a bit firm but certainly not uncomfortable. My dealer gave me a new X5 3.0si loaner and I have to say that I was glad to get the X3 back. The X5 was a very nice drive, but my X3 feels more nimble and does a much better job of communicating with the driver.
#3021 of 4185 Re: 04 X3- 62,000 mile report [roadburner]
Dec 20, 2007 (7:35 pm)
your 184hp X3 will make a great car for a young driver. I am a little shocked that your son's first car will be equipped with a slushbox. Are you going to teach him to drive on the Club Sport too I hope?