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BMW X3, SUV
#284 of 4187 doneby2010 - update
Dec 24, 2003 (9:08 am)
Well, just got back from BMW of Manhatten (I live in FL, just here for a week or so - got bored sitting in the apartment, took a walk over). They had a Black X3/6sp/3.0/Sand-leather/Birch Grain on the floor. I thought the wood did improve the interior (thought the Maple-Dark color would have been a better contrasting choice of wood), but I was confused by the color scheme - Sand leather, gray carpeting, Birch Wood, and contrasting gray dash. It did look better than the monochromatic black leather and aluminum I demo'd a few weeks ago. I'm still not impressed with the gauge/dash area, the rear seats don't have an A/C vent, and I still don't walk away 'wanting' to go off the deep end to buy one.
But, I think they have a real problem - with the X5 just a few $K more than a 3.0 X3, you don't want to erode your higher profit X5 with a close competitor at a considerably lower price. It is quite a juggling act for the marketing dept. BMW said that farming out the assembly to Magna Styr has cut into their profit margin, but the car is still profitable. Guaranteed the X5 is a big money maker for them, and you are treading on profits if you make the X3 a lot less expensive and divert X5 sales.
But all that said, the X3 would be a great mid $30K SUV, I just don't think $42K+ is a good value. Time and sales will tell! I would buy one at mid $35-37K. I'm just having a problem justifying $45,000 (tax, tag etc) for a compromise vehicle. Maybe I'll wait for the ML coming out in mid 2004.
Dec 24, 2003 (10:45 am)
" I just don't think $42K+ is a good value"
It's just as good a value as an MDX or RX for that price. And you know either of these other two won't touch the X3 in terms of handling.
It seems to be priced on par with the 3-series (give or take a couple of dollars), which is interesting.
#286 of 4187 Rear Seat Room
Dec 24, 2003 (11:27 am)
For those who've seen the X3 in person, would you say the rear seat is larger than the 3 Series sedan?
I'll be coming off lease soon on my 325i, and need something with a bit more room in back. The X3 sounds like it might do the trick. I also heard the X3 has a switch to kill the front passenger air bag (so an older child could sit up front). Does anyone know??
#287 of 4187 X3 vs. X5 Comparo...price
Dec 24, 2003 (1:40 pm)
So I've been seeing a lot of this "well, the X3 cost this much money, but for just a little more, you can get into an X5" postings.
I did a quick build your own on BMW's site and here's what I came up with:
Both the X5 & X3 were configured with the following popular options):
Metallic Paint, Leather, Steptronic (X5 lists automatic) Transmission, Xenon Headlights, Cold Weather Package, Sport Package, & Premium Package.
X5 MSRP: $50,220
X3 MSRP: $45,095
The difference is $5,135. That's a lot of money. I feel like there is a big difference between the person shopping for a $45K truck & $50K truck.
#289 of 4187 I agree
Dec 24, 2003 (5:42 pm)
Thats kinda what i figured too nyccarguy, but I think the others keep comparing a fully loaded X3 with the base X5 which is why they have problems justifying buying it.
In my case I see a larger interior with just enough lux items and a lighter vehicle thats more fun to drive.
Dec 25, 2003 (8:33 am)
It's not about the X5 vs the X3. It's about the X3 vs the MDX vs the RX vs the FX etc. It's right on line with those vehicles and probably outhandles them, although it won't out accelerate the FX.