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#2796 of 4187 Re: I won't repeat the post. . . but the true is the true...!!! [driver100]
Jul 29, 2006 (3:07 pm)
BMW could move X3 production to Greer
Demand for SUV has automaker weighing options, according to reports
Published: Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 6:00 am
By Jenny Munro
BMW could move production of its X3 SUV to the Greer assembly plant within four years, a European trade publication reports.
Automotive News Europe reports that the German automaker is considering a couple of scenarios when it launches production of the second-generation X3 in about 2010.
The X3, the smaller of the company's SUVs, is presently assembled in Austria on a contractual agreement with Magna Steyr.
Production of the X3 could move to the United States and Germany from Austria -- and could conceivably be built solely at BMW Manufacturing Co. in Greer, according to Automotive News Europe.
Plans are for a peak annual production of more than 160,000 units for the second-generation X3, according to Automotive News Europe.
BMW, which implemented a single assembly line this year, now has the capacity to produce about 590 vehicles a day, up from about 500 a day with separate lines for the X5 and Z4 roadster.
BMW Manufacturing spokeswoman Bunny Richardson said capacity, with normal shifts, probably is about 140,000 vehicles.
In 2003, the company produced more than 166,000 vehicles, meeting a request that it take up some of the slack when German plants were being renovated.
"It's speculative," Richardson said. "There have been discussions. The plant has not been directed in any way. There are no timetables on any of this."
It is not, however, a new concept.
Norbert Reithofer, who will become head of BMW AG on Sept. 1, said in 2003 that Greer "is the plant we're thinking of" when the X3's initial life cycle of about seven years is completed.
Richardson said splitting production would not be unusual, with the local plant assembling vehicles for the North American market and Germany producing vehicles for the European market.
That's the way initial production at the Greer plant began, with workers here building a 3 Series car for sale domestically.
BMW is leaning toward putting a third of its X3 production in the United States and two-thirds in Regensburg, according to Automotive News Europe.
Reithofer, who currently is the board member responsible for worldwide manufacturing, also announced three years ago that the local plant would produce the second-generation X5 when the time came for that launch.
Bobby Hitt, manager of public relations for the BMW plant, has said he expects the 4,500 employees to begin production of the second-generation X5 this year or in early 2007.
When Reithofer was visiting the Upstate, he said the plant could become the home of a third model and could expand to production of more than 200,000 vehicles. The Greer plant has been named the home of a new coupe-like crossover model, expected about 2008.
During a media briefing earlier this week with Helmut Panke, the current chairman, Reithofer told Boersen-Zeitung that if a production expansion were to come about, production at the Greer plant could increase from the current 140,000 units to about 200,000. However, he gave no timetable for an expansion.
"We are going to continue the successful journey of the BMW Group," Reithofer said, declining to speculate on production shifts of the X3.
The X3 has been a big seller since its launch in 2004. The company originally planned to sell about 40,000 X3s a year, but demand was higher. Magna Steyr built 112,800 units in 2004, the first full production year, according to the magazine.
The peak U.S. sales year for X3s was 2004, the year it was introduced and sold 34,604 units. Competition from other markets has held down the number sold in the United States, BMW officials have said.
#2797 of 4187 Re: I won't repeat the post. . . but the true is the true...!!! [juanchypr]
Jul 29, 2006 (4:41 pm)
Hey juanchypr, I still don't know what the hell point you're trying to make. Am I missing something here? Is there some kind of secret BMW lingo, or is it just you?
"vibration that the compression of the motor created hitting in the door" ?? For the love of Christ, get a hold of yourself!!
#2798 of 4187 Re: I won't repeat the post. . . but the true is the true...!!! [bodble2]
Jul 29, 2006 (7:34 pm)
"vibration that the compression of the motor created hitting in the door"
Let's go easy, there! Not all members of the Forums speak English as their first language. I think what Juan means is that the garage door may act as a soundboard like on a guitar with the effect of amplifying the sound.
#2800 of 4187 Re: Sto and go [bargamon]
Jul 29, 2006 (10:56 pm)
"Of course, my lake house near the skis slope don't suck either!"
Yes, no doubt. But then again, my condo and resort club membership smack in the middle of one of the top-ranked ski resorts in North America also serve me nicely!!
#2801 of 4187 Re: I won't repeat the post. . . but the true is the true...!!! [juanchypr]
Jul 30, 2006 (6:58 am)
BMW could move X3 production to Greer
Thank you Juan, I got to the sight this time and it was very interesting. First, I had no idea they were planning on making X5's and 3's in North America, and second and more important, looks like the X3 won't get a model change until 2010, which is quite a ways off.
I bought a fairly standard version because I was a little hesitant and it seemed expensive to me at the time, almost double the cost of a Jeep. If I could do it again I would get a lot more options. I probably would come out ahead because I would want to keep the car for another year or two or more, so I wouldn't take as much of a hit in depreciation and taxes etc.
#2802 of 4187 Re: I won't repeat the post. . . [markcincinnati]
Jul 31, 2006 (6:47 am)
Thank you for your insightful comments. Whereas I found my 1998 RAV4 to have had some character, I do find the updated (albeit improved in many ways) RAV4 to have moved into the Japanese bland-car category.
Maybe I should have mentioned that I'm looking at the X3 as a possible second car for utility and winter driving mainly. Hence why I want to be practical. My other car is a 2001 Saab 9-3 convertible. I'm not totally enamored with my Saab, but I am drawn to European cars for both their styling and performance. I chose the Saab over the BMW 3 series convertible because the dealer knocked $9,000 off the sticker price making it a bargain and the larger trunk.
As I've read mixed reviews on the X3 (mainly harsh ride, interior below typical Bimmer standards, slightly underpowered for "sport" vehicle, poor gas mileage and reliability), I'm mainly looking for feedback on X3 owners experiences. I hope all of these negatives are cured with the 2007 update. (I'm really interested in gas mileage figures, but all I'm hearing is "improved" from what was terrrible, in my opinion, for a smaller SAV.) I think consumers have a right to, and should, demand improvement in lagging areas even though a product has excellent attributes in most areas. In other words, I unequivically reject the notion that it acceptable for BMW products to lag in some areas (say, realiability) because it delivers so well in others. I know this is an X3 lovers website, but surely you can offer an objective, critical opinion without losing your love! ButI digress.
I am leaning towards buying the X3 (that's why I'm here!), but obviously must wait a few more months for the 2007 model. As I'm looking to own the vehicle longer term (say 8 to 10 years), do you think it would be a good idea to purchase a long-term service warranty? Do you know the cost of these? Also, does intended long-term ownership make leasing a less attractive option?
Thanks for your comments.
#2803 of 4187 Re: Sto and go [bodble2]
Jul 31, 2006 (7:07 am)
Hey, As long as you capitalize and highlight that its RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE AND you have a resort club benefits then I take solice in knowing your friday nites are well covered too.
Too bad I have to sell the house to cover my drug rehab bill!
Reality is, I don't have such a property, Just being sarcastic.
Funny, your one line really tells alot about yourself.
#2804 of 4187 Re: Sto and go [bargamon]
Jul 31, 2006 (9:17 am)
Oh, sarcasm. So that's what it was! You know, pal, there is a fine line between sarcasm, which is effective if used properly, and a witless remark. So I guess your one line said everything about you.
#2805 of 4187 Re: Sto and go [bodble2]
Jul 31, 2006 (9:31 am)
So I guess your one line said everything about you.
Now I'm wondering what it would say about me if I asked that we all get back on topic?