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Replying to: bodble2 (Jul 29, 2006 9:41 am) Driving an Acura TL, you never going to feel what is the "roaring" and its not a "machismo". Is when you start your car in the mornings and you can not do it with the garage door close, due to vibration that the compression of the motor created hitting in the door, or when you depart from a red light, in from of the pack with a very nice background of your motor. Also, I not in love with my X3. People that enter on this forum the same that I did from the ends of 2003, is looking for commnets about a car that they want to buy or that they or really have, and want to know about too differents topics about the car. At the beggining of the launch of the X3, most of the owners have problems with creaking doors, panoramic roof, black bumpers, interior design to cheap, but you never hear about mention problems with motors,, transmissions, CV joints, brakes, power sterring, thats mean that the car is realiable. If the X3 is not a reliable car, take a look of this new; http://www.greenvilleonline.com/apps...NESS/607290308 numbers talk by itself. Thank you Mark to understand my words between lines, Bargamon, also my wife drive is a 05/04 2004 Toyota Sienna LE, that is another kind of car with extremelly good realiable, and lot of fun driving it. 
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Replying to: juanchypr (Jul 29, 2006 10:07 am) juanchypr, try this sight again. I'd be interested in seeing what it says, but I can't get it to show up. I like the "roar".
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Replying to: driver100 (Jul 29, 2006 12:28 pm) BMW could move X3 production to Greer Demand for SUV has automaker weighing options, according to reports Published: Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 6:00 am By Jenny Munro STAFF WRITER jmunro  greenvillenews.com BMW could move production of its X3 SUV to the Greer assembly plant within four years, a European trade publication reports. Automotive News Europe reports that the German automaker is considering a couple of scenarios when it launches production of the second-generation X3 in about 2010. The X3, the smaller of the company's SUVs, is presently assembled in Austria on a contractual agreement with Magna Steyr. Production of the X3 could move to the United States and Germany from Austria -- and could conceivably be built solely at BMW Manufacturing Co. in Greer, according to Automotive News Europe. Advertisement Plans are for a peak annual production of more than 160,000 units for the second-generation X3, according to Automotive News Europe. BMW, which implemented a single assembly line this year, now has the capacity to produce about 590 vehicles a day, up from about 500 a day with separate lines for the X5 and Z4 roadster. BMW Manufacturing spokeswoman Bunny Richardson said capacity, with normal shifts, probably is about 140,000 vehicles. In 2003, the company produced more than 166,000 vehicles, meeting a request that it take up some of the slack when German plants were being renovated. "It's speculative," Richardson said. "There have been discussions. The plant has not been directed in any way. There are no timetables on any of this." It is not, however, a new concept. Norbert Reithofer, who will become head of BMW AG on Sept. 1, said in 2003 that Greer "is the plant we're thinking of" when the X3's initial life cycle of about seven years is completed. Richardson said splitting production would not be unusual, with the local plant assembling vehicles for the North American market and Germany producing vehicles for the European market. That's the way initial production at the Greer plant began, with workers here building a 3 Series car for sale domestically. BMW is leaning toward putting a third of its X3 production in the United States and two-thirds in Regensburg, according to Automotive News Europe. Reithofer, who currently is the board member responsible for worldwide manufacturing, also announced three years ago that the local plant would produce the second-generation X5 when the time came for that launch. Bobby Hitt, manager of public relations for the BMW plant, has said he expects the 4,500 employees to begin production of the second-generation X5 this year or in early 2007. When Reithofer was visiting the Upstate, he said the plant could become the home of a third model and could expand to production of more than 200,000 vehicles. The Greer plant has been named the home of a new coupe-like crossover model, expected about 2008. During a media briefing earlier this week with Helmut Panke, the current chairman, Reithofer told Boersen-Zeitung that if a production expansion were to come about, production at the Greer plant could increase from the current 140,000 units to about 200,000. However, he gave no timetable for an expansion. "We are going to continue the successful journey of the BMW Group," Reithofer said, declining to speculate on production shifts of the X3. The X3 has been a big seller since its launch in 2004. The company originally planned to sell about 40,000 X3s a year, but demand was higher. Magna Steyr built 112,800 units in 2004, the first full production year, according to the magazine. The peak U.S. sales year for X3s was 2004, the year it was introduced and sold 34,604 units. Competition from other markets has held down the number sold in the United States, BMW officials have said.
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Replying to: juanchypr (Jul 29, 2006 10:07 am)  "vibration that the compression of the motor created hitting in the door" ?? For the love of Christ, get a hold of yourself!! 
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Replying to: bodble2 (Jul 29, 2006 4:41 pm) Let's go easy, there! Not all members of the Forums speak English as their first language. I think what Juan means is that the garage door may act as a soundboard like on a guitar with the effect of amplifying the sound. tidester, host |
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"Of course, my lake house near the skis slope don't suck either!" Yes, no doubt. But then again, my condo and resort club membership smack in the middle of one of the top-ranked ski resorts in North America also serve me nicely!! 
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Replying to: juanchypr (Jul 29, 2006 3:07 pm) Thank you Juan, I got to the sight this time and it was very interesting. First, I had no idea they were planning on making X5's and 3's in North America, and second and more important, looks like the X3 won't get a model change until 2010, which is quite a ways off. I bought a fairly standard version because I was a little hesitant and it seemed expensive to me at the time, almost double the cost of a Jeep. If I could do it again I would get a lot more options. I probably would come out ahead because I would want to keep the car for another year or two or more, so I wouldn't take as much of a hit in depreciation and taxes etc.
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Jul 28, 2006 11:05 am) Maybe I should have mentioned that I'm looking at the X3 as a possible second car for utility and winter driving mainly. Hence why I want to be practical. My other car is a 2001 Saab 9-3 convertible. I'm not totally enamored with my Saab, but I am drawn to European cars for both their styling and performance. I chose the Saab over the BMW 3 series convertible because the dealer knocked $9,000 off the sticker price making it a bargain and the larger trunk. As I've read mixed reviews on the X3 (mainly harsh ride, interior below typical Bimmer standards, slightly underpowered for "sport" vehicle, poor gas mileage and reliability), I'm mainly looking for feedback on X3 owners experiences. I hope all of these negatives are cured with the 2007 update. (I'm really interested in gas mileage figures, but all I'm hearing is "improved" from what was terrrible, in my opinion, for a smaller SAV.) I think consumers have a right to, and should, demand improvement in lagging areas even though a product has excellent attributes in most areas. In other words, I unequivically reject the notion that it acceptable for BMW products to lag in some areas (say, realiability) because it delivers so well in others. I know this is an X3 lovers website, but surely you can offer an objective, critical opinion without losing your love! ButI digress. I am leaning towards buying the X3 (that's why I'm here!), but obviously must wait a few more months for the 2007 model. As I'm looking to own the vehicle longer term (say 8 to 10 years), do you think it would be a good idea to purchase a long-term service warranty? Do you know the cost of these? Also, does intended long-term ownership make leasing a less attractive option? Thanks for your comments.
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Replying to: bodble2 (Jul 29, 2006 10:56 pm) Too bad I have to sell the house to cover my drug rehab bill! Reality is, I don't have such a property, Just being sarcastic. Funny, your one line really tells alot about yourself. 
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