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Replying to: 462 (Jul 19, 2006 6:24 pm) |
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| I looking at buying one of these vehicles. I previously owned a 1998 RAV4 and liked it size, ride, steering and reliability alot. Negatives for me were underpowered and cheap stereo/speakers. I would like something similiar, but with more power and a better sound system. The new X3 and RAV4 V6 seem like similar vehicles to me, but with the RAV4 being a more practical choice and the X3 a more upscale choice. I've never owned a Bimmer before and was wondering if a if anyone has familiarity with these vehicles and a knowledgeable opinion on whether the X3 is worth the approx. 50% price difference ($30K v. $45K)? Also, has the gas mileage figures for the new X3 been released yet? Thanks. | |
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Replying to: wmdavis1 (Jul 21, 2006 3:49 pm) But, if you lease, you may find that price difference is more like 20%, and I would certainly consider it.. regards, kyfdx (not the host here) |
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Replying to: wmdavis1 (Jul 21, 2006 3:49 pm) These guys and gals are the owners of X3's and most seem pretty happy. The RAV4 looks like a very nice vehicle and toyota products are exellent. How long will you keep the vehicle? Leases can work out great on BMW's! 4 years included maintenence on the BMW. In the long run, the X will cost you more but its percieved value. If you like it, and can afford it and WANT to spend for it, then your answer is it. I think the X3 is a great value for the money!
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Replying to: bargamon (Jul 22, 2006 10:35 am) |
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Replying to: wmdavis1 (Jul 21, 2006 3:49 pm) BMW 6-cylinder engines are of the inline variety. This layout is rare these days as most vehicle makers use V-6s, primarily because their compactness suits tightly packaged front-wheel-drive cars smoothness and sound. Indeed, the expert media consistently applaud the Bavarians for doing so. In an early drive of the X3, the German magazine Auto Bild alles allrad 1 noted of an X3 3.0i with automatic transmission that “Even when one doesn’t select the Sport mode, the smooth inline engine revs handily to its redline before the transmission shifts smoothly to the next gear.” The X3 engine is of BMW’s acclaimed M54 engine architecture, whose salient points include – • Aluminum block and cylinder head • Dual overhead camshafts/24 valves • Double VANOS 2 steplessly variable intake- and exhaust-valve timing • Dual resonance intake system. Previously, 2.5- and 3.0-liter engine versions powered the two X3 models; for ‘06 3.0-liter version continues in the X3 3.0i with 225 hp 3500. It delivers a decidedly lively 0-60 time of 7.6 sec. with manual transmission, sec. with automatic. Again we turn to Edmunds.com for an objective assessment: “Even though the competition fields more powerful sixes, this engine, which BMW uses in its cars, continues to be a favorite of ours. It's smooth as silk, has a ripping exhaust note when you wind it out and performs like it's hiding 40 more horses under the hood.” |
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Replying to: wmdavis1 (Jul 21, 2006 3:49 pm) If you are practical minded the RAV4 is probably your better choice. Some people believe price for what you perceive to get means the lower priced vehicle is really the better value. What price do you put on; amazing feel of the road, all the power any normal human being needs, perfect ergonomics, tremendous engineering (the battery is in the rear to give perfect weight balance), I don't know if the X3 has taken the crash tests but I am pretty sure it is as safe as any car in it's segment (this seems to be a priority to European makes). And, if you do keep your car for 8 years I will bet the X3 will be a classic and will be worth much more than the RAV4, we are talking classic European designing that lasts - in fact 10 year old BMW's and Mercedes look better than most manufacturers new cars. In my case I had 2 Jeeps and I thought, why does anyone pay 50% more for a vehicle, aren't they all pretty much the same, get you from point A to point B? When I took the test drive I didn't want to give it back. I tested a few SUV's (and various rental cars), but why look further. It is the perfect vehicle, and a tremendous value. There are few vehicles that can combine the practicality, safety, style, engineering and pure enjoyment of driving, like an X3. As for mileage I get about 25 hwy and 20 city (premium fuel don't forget). Not as good as a Toyota, but excellent considering the size of the engine and the weight of the vehicle. 4 year warranty with service counts for something. Once again if you are an extremely practical person you won't be happy.....but if you want to really appreciate driving and engineering, then you have to go for a test drive! The X3 showed me there is a whole different world out there.
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Replying to: driver100 (Jul 23, 2006 7:25 am) LOL. Let's be fair. If I *really* am practical minded, a RAV4 V6 is too expensive, there are other alterntatives for less money. /ot Let it be said this way. If money was no object I would rather have the BMW. The X3 handles like a sedan, the RAV4 handles like a truck compared to it.
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Replying to: kdshapiro (Jul 24, 2006 3:55 am) I mean between an X3 and RAV4 - IMO the RAV4 is being more practical. If you want to be even more practical, go with a Hyundai Tucson If you want some enjoyment in your life, and won't feel guilty about it....go with the X3.
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Replying to: driver100 (Jul 24, 2006 4:37 am) |
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