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Concerns about the fuel economy of the X3 by mpereira123
May 29, 2006 (2:44 pm)
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Hi -
 
I'm considering purchasing an X3, but I'm wary of the range of MPG estimates I've seen for the car (from 16-24). IMO, 24 is ok, but anything below 20 is really not acceptable. What type of mileage do you guys typically get on your X3s? I'm going to be using it in a fair amount of rush-hour traffic (driving near downtown Cincinnati). Also, how far can you go on one tank? Can you really put middle-grade gas in it? (This is what the dealer told me...)
 
Matt
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Re: Concerns about the fuel economy of the X3 [mpereira123] by driver100
May 29, 2006 (3:36 pm)
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Replying to: mpereira123 (May 29, 2006 2:44 pm)

I will try to answer as best I can;
*once you hit 10,000 miles mileage increases 20%. Someone said it here and I thought it sounded weird, but it was true. At 15,000 miles I get 18 to 24 MPG U.S. Around 20 to 22 in mixed driving.
*If I really stretch it to the limit I can go about 400 miles on a tankful, I haven't gone beyond that but that was close to empty.
*From what I have read you can use medium grade if the engine doesn't knock. But, there is probably no real savings as the engine won't run as efficiently, and you could do some damage. Sensors will adjust it to run on lower grade fuel, but the savings will be small or non existant.
*If great gas mileage is critical to your decision I would go with something else, maybe more mileage in a 3 series station wagon. I have heard a VW GTI diesel gets 65 MPG.
If you need an SUV type vehicle, and love the X3, and you can live with pretty good gas mileage considering it's size, weight, performance then the X3 is a great ride. However, if you think you will be disappointed I would really go with something else because 24 MPG is under pretty ideal conditions.
Hope that helps!
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Momma Continued......... by bargamon
May 29, 2006 (7:47 pm)
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Looking at an Avalon now.
 
Trucks/Crossovers do ride different than cars.
 
Momma ain't skiing! Thats for darn sure. Thanks for the advice.
 
I told her to either get a wagon (car) or just get another sedan. She is set in her mind in many ways. Just ain't gonna bend her.
 
This is a second car. Her 1998 pristine S500 has spoiled her rotton. The "Bismark" just floats along. Double insulated glass and heavy as a brinks truck the ride is very smooth on that Sedan.
 
On the Hummer. Outside of military use they are becoming joke.
 
Just cuz gas is cheap does not mean we have to be pigs about it. And as a tool we are beholden to opec when we are so wasteful.
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Re: Concerns about the fuel economy of the X3 [driver100] by markcincinnati
May 30, 2006 (4:52 am)
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Replying to: driver100 (May 29, 2006 3:36 pm)

Background
 
I am willing to bet you want an X3 sans manual transmission.
 
We live in Cincinnati, too.
 
The X3 3.0 with the current 5speed auto spends a lot of time hunting for the right gear here in the city of "7 hills." The mileage and performance of the auto version is lower than the stick shift version.
 
This is both a realatively thirsty and dirty engine. It is, also, a very sweet engine to have underfoot.
 
The 255HP 3.0 and the 6speed (and perhaps a hoped for 7 speed) automatic will improve every aspect of this car's power train -- especially if you are like the 99% who want automatics.
 
To make the point: here in the city of 7 hills the 5 speed auto version is thirsty (below 20 around town easily) and somewhat unstatisfying if you like a car that feels nimble when you press on the accelerator.
 
Our test drive experience was that every little press on the accelerator caused a downshift followed a few seconds later by an upshift followed by a down shift and so on.
 
It needs a 6 speed transmission if you want the auto version. It is also peppier and more controllable with the stick shift, but I know I am more than likely speaking to an unreceptive audience.
 
The upcoming X3 will have the new engine, the 6speed auto and a refreshed interior and one is led to believe an even more compliant ride tuning.
 
This is a thirsty little dude.
 
On the highway, it can and does, however, exceed 24.
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Re: Concerns about the fuel economy of the X3 [markcincinnati] by mpereira123
May 30, 2006 (6:51 am)
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Replying to: markcincinnati (May 30, 2006 4:52 am)

Hi Mark!
 
Thanks for the insight!
 
So what is the best mileage you've ever gotten on it? (How far above 24)?
 
Matt
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Re: Concerns about the fuel economy of the X3 [mpereira123] by markcincinnati
May 30, 2006 (8:06 am)
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Replying to: mpereira123 (May 30, 2006 6:51 am)

25-ish on the stretch of I-70 between Columbus Oh and Pittsburgh, Pa.
 
All of what I have said must also be said to include:
 
"we love our X3."
 
We test drove the 3.0 and the 2.5 with the automatic over a period of days. They had ONE 3.0 6speed manual and we tried the back to back to back thing too -- theses were two different cars. Now, perhaps, had we used the step mode of the steptronic we would have come away with a different opinion. My wife will NOT use the manumatic in manu mode, plain and simple.
 
This was a disappointment (to me) to think this great little SAV (little, being not an exactly correct sentiment) was brought to market with such a lame transmission (and the thing seems to sell well despite the fact.)
 
This is a great car with the stick, tho!
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Re: Momma Continued......... [bargamon] by driver100
May 30, 2006 (8:14 am)
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Replying to: bargamon (May 29, 2006 7:47 pm)

This is a second car. Her 1998 pristine S500 has spoiled her rotton. The "Bismark" just floats along. Double insulated glass and heavy as a brinks truck the ride is very smooth on that Sedan.
 
Please keep us posted on each car she tries out. It would be fun to know her impressions. If going the Avalon route, Lexus, Honda, Infinity or Accura might be worth a try.
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Re: Momma Continued......... [driver100] by bargamon
May 30, 2006 (10:05 am)
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Replying to: driver100 (May 30, 2006 8:14 am)

Be more fun to take a video camera around and do a "virtual" show. Mom is a hoot and very set in her ways!
 
She harkens back to the 1950's when "daddy" had an imperial or the best of buicks and Olds. Was "too showy" back then for a Caddy!
 
The thought the RX330 was gonna be great because it was a "lexus"! She is a pure thru and thru with no shame a true "nameplate slut"!
 
I am wondering if a ride in an X3 for grins and giggles migh do. Why? "BMW"! Current 2nd car is a 1993 Volvo v70 turbo sport wagon which she claims drives "like a truck"!
 
She hated the Honda pilot, Tribeca, infiiti FX and forsome reason they (with dad) drove an Audi A4 wagon which they never got off the lot. Duh!
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Re: Momma Continued......... [bargamon] by driver100
May 30, 2006 (10:25 am)
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Replying to: bargamon (May 30, 2006 10:05 am)

Current 2nd car is a 1993 Volvo v70 turbo sport wagon which she claims drives "like a truck"!
 
Yeh, a video would be great. They should have a reality show...watching people test drive cars.
 
Have to agree about Volvo's of that vintage being like a truck. Soon after 93 Ford bought them and really ruined them...our 95 had more problems than any car I have owned, had to get out of the lease early.
I think you are narrowing it down.
Keep us posted.
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Re: Concerns about the fuel economy of the X3 [markcincinnati] by bodble2
May 30, 2006 (10:16 pm)
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Replying to: markcincinnati (May 30, 2006 8:06 am)

Don't get me wrong, I'm not doubting what you say (since you speak from direct personal experience), but honestly, you're one of the very few, if not the only one, who rant relentlessly on the 5-sp steptronic on the X3. I know there are plenty who prefer the stick to the step, but you're the only one who seems to flat-out think the step is a piece of crap.

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