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Re: What would you buy? [driver100] by bodble2
Dec 19, 2005 (1:09 am)
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Replying to: driver100 (Dec 17, 2005 9:40 am)

"can't think of any other car I would choose over an X3."
 
Umm...check out the new RAV4 V6. Almost the same dimensions and capacity as the X3. The X3 will be hard pressed to match it's straight ahead performance even with the 255hp motor. Yes, it is a little short on lux features compared to the X, but likely not by that much, since the X is no lux-mobile either. But the mechanical bits appear to be in place. OK, the x-drive is no doubt superior to the front-drive bias system on the Toyota.
But with the price difference....the Toyota is a pretty compelling option. So I'm thinking...reliability in exchange for some luxury, and you pocket the extra cash (which is enough to buy a Yaris for the son/daughter entering college). Not a bad deal. But of course, it is not a BMW, so if the snob appeal of the propeller badge and kidney grill is important...
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Rav4=X3 - $10K? by kdshapiro
Dec 19, 2005 (4:52 am)
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"straight ahead performance even with the 255hp motor."
 
But there is a handling aspect to the X3 that will not be present in the Toyota. The X3 handles almost as well as a sedan.
 
A Rav4 is not a stripper version of an X3. One could say it's a compelling argument if one forgoes the luxury and handling of an X3. Using the same thoughts, one could always get a loaded Sante Fe over the Rav4, pocket the money and take the family on a vacation to Hawaii.
 
As far as reliability - it's a crap shoot either way.
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Re: Rav4=X3 - $10K? [kdshapiro] by div2
Dec 19, 2005 (8:08 am)
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Replying to: kdshapiro (Dec 19, 2005 4:52 am)

I doubt many X3 owners go to bed at night wondering if they should have bought a Rav4.
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Re: What would you buy? [bodble2] by jrynn
Dec 19, 2005 (8:11 am)
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Replying to: bodble2 (Dec 19, 2005 1:09 am)

with the price difference....the Toyota is a pretty compelling option. ... But of course, it is not a BMW, so if the snob appeal of the propeller badge and kidney grill is important...
 
Until Toyota can match the BMW driving experience -- and not just "straight ahead" acceleration -- there will be people who choose BMWs rather than Toyotas despite the "price difference."
 
You are awfully snide to suggest that it's solely a function of "the snob appeal of the propeller badge and kidney grill." That comment might more accurately describe why a buyer would choose a Lexus over a Toyota if you substituted "L" for "propeller badge and "Lexus grill" for "kidney grill."
 
(And even then, Lexus buyers could reasonably argue that there are qualitative differences that make the ES better than the Camry, the RX better than the Highlander, the GX better than the 4Runner, and the LX better than the Land Cruiser.)
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Re: What would you buy? [jrynn] by davidc1
Dec 19, 2005 (10:10 am)
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Replying to: jrynn (Dec 19, 2005 8:11 am)

I think the handling, braking and power is there for the new RAV4 Sport, in addition to the perceived reliability. But it's still missing the manual transmission.
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Re: Rav4=X3 - $10K? [kdshapiro] by bodble2
Dec 19, 2005 (10:46 am)
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Replying to: kdshapiro (Dec 19, 2005 4:52 am)

I agree with the handling...but the trade-off may be a harsher ride for some folks.
 
The Sante Fe analogy is not really valid because the mechanical pedigree of the Fe is nowhere near that of the new RAV.
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Re: Rav4=X3 - $10K? [div2] by bodble2
Dec 19, 2005 (10:47 am)
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Replying to: div2 (Dec 19, 2005 8:08 am)

Not with the old RAV. But some X3 2.5 owners may...with the new RAV.

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