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BMW X3, SUV
#2301 of 4185 Re: What would you buy? [kyfdx]
Dec 04, 2005 (8:35 am)
I wondered about that -- but the dealer in late March 2005 when we were buyting the BMW said "the deal is the deal" at the MSRP the lease payment is "X" on an in stock X3 or an ordered one.
We even changed the order within 5 days of the original configuration by adding Servotronic, and since the car was not yet on the line, the change was accepted (but I had to give them the $250 CASH.)
Ever larger inventories at our favorite Greater Cincinnati BMW dealer have not worked for us, thus far.
Ditto the Audi store, the Infiniti store and even the Chrysler store -- at every one of these dealers we were in an "order" or "settle" choice.
Since we were in no real hurry, we were "ripe" to order exactly what we wanted.
Of course, we didn't realize that a $47K BMW did not have homelink or power folding mirrors -- so add those to our order, next time, along with privacy glass.
Overall, we've not really missed the automatic built in garage door opener, but it seems like such an odd oversight at this price point (and shame on us for assuming it would be standard with the Premium package.)
We love our BMW, but based on MSRP they are really under-contented. Yet, the lease deals are soooo attractive you can crank a BMW up above $50K and still have a monthly payment that feels more like you are leasing a Chrysler 300C which is many thousands less.
Dec 05, 2005 (9:06 am)
Appreciate the heads up. I have a real nice Audi connection, a client of mine is the used car manager at a very large dealer. But none such at BMW. I will take do the fax thing with about 5 dealers in the state when the time comes and offer them the deal. Money facters are higher now, but I am assuming the x-3 is not the red hot offering flying out the door unless the pricing incentives are there.
The X3 may be the perfect vehicle for me!
I am hoping the Audi Q7 takes much demand out from the A6 avent and make my choice harder!
THe Volvo is already in the family (sister)and has 34k on it. I have a private master mechanic whom worked on my mercedes for 10 years and does volvos also. The history on this car is very clean.
My son though wants a manual like his pop! I think a Honda element or a Diesel Jetta wagon (all used mind you) would suffice best. Front or awd, good fuel econmy and good track record. I gotta bone upon the jettas though.
He is a musicion and Ice hockey player. Will need lots of usable space. The jetta gets great fuel milage and is not very very quick.
A high milage pleather base bones 2.5 X3 might be a good choice but I ain't going there!
Dec 05, 2005 (9:03 pm)
If you're watching...Congrats on your new (used) X3! WHat options does your X3 have on it? Did you get rid of your wife's 5er or your Wrangler? I'm very eager to hear your impressions of the X3!
#2304 of 4185 Re: div2 [nyccarguy]
Dec 06, 2005 (9:15 am)
We really weren't planning to buy anything, but here we are...
It seems our dealer was offering past customers a $50 gift certificate for BMW accessories if you test drove a new E90, so we stopped by a couple of weeks ago. While we were there, my wife jokingly asked our salesman if they were going to get any CPO X3s. It turned out that they were getting one the next day- a Flamenco Red 2004 2.5 with 16K. Options were Steptronic, PP, CWP, heated wheel, leather, privacy glass, xenons, and satellite radio prep, with a BMW CPO warranty until July 2010. We decided to give it a hard look if we could sell our 5er. My indie BMW shop found a buyer-check the "Real World Trade-In Values" thread for the details-and all of a sudden we were in the market for a new vehicle. My wife wanted an AWD or 4X4 with decent ground clearance so that she could make it out our half mile gravel driveway in the winter. The only other vehicle we seriously considered was the Nissan Xterra Off Road(we also took a brief look at the Forester XT, but neither of us eat granola or wear Birkenstocks). We both really liked the Nissan, but finally decided it would serve better as a replacement for the TJ Wrangler in a year or so.
As for the X3, I'm very pleased with it and my wife loves it. Despite its two ton curb weight the X feels much lighter and more nimble than the 5er. Acceleration isn't anything to write home about, but it's OK. The ride is taut but not uncomfortable. As I won't be tracking the X, I don't really miss the Sport Package. Besides, if I want to carve up a road course or twisting two lane I'll take the Club Sport or Speed Triple. Some people find the X3 interior to be plain and/or somber, but I prefer its no-nonsense Teutonic functionality; it sort of reminds me of my Bavaria and E24 M6. I'm not very critical about car audio anymore, so the lack of premium sound doesn't bother me. In any case, it sounds much better than the DSP system that was fitted to the 528i. It would be nice to have the Valvetronic 3.0, but the money I saved buying this car can be applied to the M1 acquisition fund-or maybe to a new M Coupe(that matte silver prototype at Frankfurt is very alluring).
#2305 of 4185 Let it snow let it snow let it snow. . .
Dec 15, 2005 (4:07 pm)
ring. . .
my wife: "have I told you how much I love my X3?"
me: "not for 15 minutes. . . ."
my wife: "now I know what you mean about the way you felt when you drove my TT for a couple of months -- when you said you felt like you were a bug on the highway. . . this BMW X3's is sooooooo confidence inspiring."
me: "yea yea, I heard you the 37th time, 16 minutes ago. . ."
my wife: "I want you to order a new X3 for me. . . ."
me: "what, you have 28 months to go on your lease. . ."
my wife: "oh, I know, I don't mean I want you to order one to immediately replace my 2005 X3, I just want you to make sure that we have the timing down so that I can get my 2008 X3 when the time comes."
me: "good grief!"
my wife: "this car is so great in snow, too -- I'm king, er, queen of the road!"
me: "good bye, dear."
#2306 of 4185 Re: What would you buy? [driver100]
Dec 15, 2005 (6:03 pm)
Be careful. The X3 has had more problems than our Volvo XC90. At least Volvo accepts they have problems and inform the dealer on what to do to fix them. BMW continues to be slow on the information the dealer receives on common problems. Overall very disappointed by a +$40 machine. Even GM does better than BMW in this price range.....Back to Honda and Toyota I guess.
#2307 of 4185 Re: What would you buy? [dinsmoor]
Dec 15, 2005 (6:17 pm)
A "BMWstinksI'mgoingtobuyaHondayota" post.
Made by an individual who just signed up.
Don't see those in the BMW topics very often.
#2308 of 4185 Re: What would you buy? [dinsmoor]
Dec 16, 2005 (6:02 am)
At 12,000 miles on a 2005 X3 3.0, this car ties for being the most trouble free car we have ever had -- and although I am certain many will discount the car it tied with, I'll tell you that car is an Audi.
We have taken the X3 in to the dealer ONE time for an "issue" -- that is, after 6 months and winter coming on, we decided we wanted all new wiper blades. They were replaced, the car vacuumed and washed.
While we were in for this, we were offered a loaner car for pity's sake, free Starbuck's coffee and what appeared to be fresh, home made choc chip cookies.
In 12,000 miles, we have added 1/2 quart of oil since when checking the dip stick we noted the oil was down to the lower part of "normal" range. We asked the dealer about this and he told us to use Castrol Super Syn 0W-30 and only to use the pint.
Oh yea, once, while we were at Costco, we had all four tires checked and we added a pound of pressure all around. This was more a "while we're here," kind of thing, not due to any indication of need.
If all cars at 12K miles needed this much attention there would be almost nothing to complain about.
My only yellow flag is my own history -- I am from the school of thought that says even with modern oil, 10,000 miles between oil changes is enough.
Hey, its a 36 month lease, they (BMW) certainly want to resell the car and if they think the car will be fine with that freq of oil changes, who am I?
I cannot comment on the Honda, Toyota, Acura cars -- they may be better for all I know.
The X3 has been terrific.
I wish the dash board was of a finer grain -- of course that would only make it seem more lux than ours, so equipped with every BMW option imaginable (except auto trans) practically.
This car $581/mo w/MSRP=$47K replaced a $43K Audi TT that was $709 per month, same deal.
We get to keep that German driving experience, have room to haul stuff and a bargain to boot.
Another corner heard from.
#2309 of 4185 Re: What would you buy? [div2]
Dec 17, 2005 (10:40 am)
Re: BMWstinks....Excellent detective work, you should be on CSI. Our X3 has 12,000 miles (20,000 kms) without any problems.
Offhand, I can't think of any other car I would choose over an X3. For a combination of the nicest design, best handling, huge amount of space, best ergonomics, safety features, gas mileage, and probably a great trade in value which is why your lease rates are so low...what could be better?
#2310 of 4185 Re: What would you buy? [driver100]
Dec 17, 2005 (1:58 pm)
Thanks! fwiw, my wife's CPO looks and performs as new with 16K on the clock-and it cost considerably less than anything remotely comparable from Japan or the US. Yeah, we've really got buyer's remorse...