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Re: What would you buy? [bargamon1] by markcincinnati
Dec 02, 2005 (8:26 pm)
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Replying to: bargamon1 (Dec 02, 2005 8:21 am)

We went to the dealer when the X3 sale prices were being advertised. We incorrectly believed the lease deals were for in stock vehicles and configured two or three versions of the X3 that we thought we could live with.
 
We wanted: 3.0, manual, sat nav, Sirius, upgraded sound system, Premium and sport -- AND we wanted teracotta leather seats.
 
We could not get the combination we wanted.
 
The dealer said, "no problem, we can order the exact car you want and keep the price per month on the lease as we agree upon." "Delivery time is less than 8 weeks."
 
We agreed upon a car that would be at full MSRP just south of $47K -- no upfronts, first month and a sec dep. Mo pay = $581 36 mo and 15K miles.
 
Nothing, at that moment, from Audi, BMW, Infiniti, Mercededs or Volvo came close.
 
Once again, we ordered the car we wanted -- now at some 28 cars ordered, we wonder what the fuss is about inventory.
 
After all, they never have what you want, you always have to take something less than what you want if you buy off the lot.
 
On the other hand, I know that the days of ordering your new Porsche and waiting up to 9 months (or longer) for the dealer's allocation soured many on the idea of ordering.
 
Odd, how people will buy $50K cars that are "almost" what they wanted.
 
At least with BMW (and Audi from my recent experince), you can get the car you want in about 2 months.
 
Immediate gratification may be nice -- but at this price point, why settle for "almost" what you want?
 
Regrets -- we should have ordered the privacy glass, we should have insisted on the home link transmitter -- but these ARE minor.
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Re: What would you buy? [markcincinnati] by kyfdx HOST
Dec 02, 2005 (8:38 pm)
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Dec 02, 2005 8:26 pm)

People are different..
 
I went to the same dealer last month.... They had exactly one example of the model I was looking for (an '05)... and, I bought it!!
 
Regrets? I wish I had more money...
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Re: What would you buy? [kyfdx] by markcincinnati
Dec 03, 2005 (8:08 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Dec 02, 2005 8:38 pm)

Me too -- and if they had the exact car we wanted, we would have taken it off the lot.
 
My Audi dealer, even when I offered two color combinations couldn't comply either.
 
I certainly don't go in with the intention that I will have to order, but that is how it always seems to pan out.
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Re: What would you buy? [markcincinnati] by kyfdx HOST
Dec 03, 2005 (8:30 am)
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Dec 03, 2005 8:08 am)

Oh.. it wasn't the exact one that I wanted... but, you can't order an '05, and get the killer lease deals...
 
I agree though.... to get our '03 325i, I had to look for a slightly used one, or order a new one... They almost never have the combo you want in stock..
 
I think I have a stronger negotiating position when I buy a car off the lot, though...
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: What would you buy? [kyfdx] by markcincinnati
Dec 04, 2005 (7:35 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Dec 03, 2005 8:30 am)

I wondered about that -- but the dealer in late March 2005 when we were buyting the BMW said "the deal is the deal" at the MSRP the lease payment is "X" on an in stock X3 or an ordered one.
 
We even changed the order within 5 days of the original configuration by adding Servotronic, and since the car was not yet on the line, the change was accepted (but I had to give them the $250 CASH.)
 
Ever larger inventories at our favorite Greater Cincinnati BMW dealer have not worked for us, thus far.
 
Ditto the Audi store, the Infiniti store and even the Chrysler store -- at every one of these dealers we were in an "order" or "settle" choice.
 
Since we were in no real hurry, we were "ripe" to order exactly what we wanted.
 
Of course, we didn't realize that a $47K BMW did not have homelink or power folding mirrors -- so add those to our order, next time, along with privacy glass.
 
Overall, we've not really missed the automatic built in garage door opener, but it seems like such an odd oversight at this price point (and shame on us for assuming it would be standard with the Premium package.)
 
We love our BMW, but based on MSRP they are really under-contented. Yet, the lease deals are soooo attractive you can crank a BMW up above $50K and still have a monthly payment that feels more like you are leasing a Chrysler 300C which is many thousands less.
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Thanks! by bargamon1
Dec 05, 2005 (8:06 am)
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Appreciate the heads up. I have a real nice Audi connection, a client of mine is the used car manager at a very large dealer. But none such at BMW. I will take do the fax thing with about 5 dealers in the state when the time comes and offer them the deal. Money facters are higher now, but I am assuming the x-3 is not the red hot offering flying out the door unless the pricing incentives are there.
 
The X3 may be the perfect vehicle for me!
 
I am hoping the Audi Q7 takes much demand out from the A6 avent and make my choice harder!
 
THe Volvo is already in the family (sister)and has 34k on it. I have a private master mechanic whom worked on my mercedes for 10 years and does volvos also. The history on this car is very clean.
 
My son though wants a manual like his pop! I think a Honda element or a Diesel Jetta wagon (all used mind you) would suffice best. Front or awd, good fuel econmy and good track record. I gotta bone upon the jettas though.
 
He is a musicion and Ice hockey player. Will need lots of usable space. The jetta gets great fuel milage and is not very very quick.
 
A high milage pleather base bones 2.5 X3 might be a good choice but I ain't going there!
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div2 by nyccarguy
Dec 05, 2005 (8:03 pm)
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If you're watching...Congrats on your new (used) X3! WHat options does your X3 have on it? Did you get rid of your wife's 5er or your Wrangler? I'm very eager to hear your impressions of the X3!
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Re: div2 [nyccarguy] by div2
Dec 06, 2005 (8:15 am)
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Replying to: nyccarguy (Dec 05, 2005 8:03 pm)

We really weren't planning to buy anything, but here we are...
It seems our dealer was offering past customers a $50 gift certificate for BMW accessories if you test drove a new E90, so we stopped by a couple of weeks ago. While we were there, my wife jokingly asked our salesman if they were going to get any CPO X3s. It turned out that they were getting one the next day- a Flamenco Red 2004 2.5 with 16K. Options were Steptronic, PP, CWP, heated wheel, leather, privacy glass, xenons, and satellite radio prep, with a BMW CPO warranty until July 2010. We decided to give it a hard look if we could sell our 5er. My indie BMW shop found a buyer-check the "Real World Trade-In Values" thread for the details-and all of a sudden we were in the market for a new vehicle. My wife wanted an AWD or 4X4 with decent ground clearance so that she could make it out our half mile gravel driveway in the winter. The only other vehicle we seriously considered was the Nissan Xterra Off Road(we also took a brief look at the Forester XT, but neither of us eat granola or wear Birkenstocks). We both really liked the Nissan, but finally decided it would serve better as a replacement for the TJ Wrangler in a year or so.
As for the X3, I'm very pleased with it and my wife loves it. Despite its two ton curb weight the X feels much lighter and more nimble than the 5er. Acceleration isn't anything to write home about, but it's OK. The ride is taut but not uncomfortable. As I won't be tracking the X, I don't really miss the Sport Package. Besides, if I want to carve up a road course or twisting two lane I'll take the Club Sport or Speed Triple. Some people find the X3 interior to be plain and/or somber, but I prefer its no-nonsense Teutonic functionality; it sort of reminds me of my Bavaria and E24 M6. I'm not very critical about car audio anymore, so the lack of premium sound doesn't bother me. In any case, it sounds much better than the DSP system that was fitted to the 528i. It would be nice to have the Valvetronic 3.0, but the money I saved buying this car can be applied to the M1 acquisition fund-or maybe to a new M Coupe(that matte silver prototype at Frankfurt is very alluring).
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Let it snow let it snow let it snow. . . by markcincinnati
Dec 15, 2005 (3:07 pm)
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ring. . .
 
me: "hello?"
 
my wife: "have I told you how much I love my X3?"
 
me: "not for 15 minutes. . . ."
 
my wife: "now I know what you mean about the way you felt when you drove my TT for a couple of months -- when you said you felt like you were a bug on the highway. . . this BMW X3's is sooooooo confidence inspiring."
 
me: "yea yea, I heard you the 37th time, 16 minutes ago. . ."
 
my wife: "I want you to order a new X3 for me. . . ."
 
me: "what, you have 28 months to go on your lease. . ."
 
my wife: "oh, I know, I don't mean I want you to order one to immediately replace my 2005 X3, I just want you to make sure that we have the timing down so that I can get my 2008 X3 when the time comes."
 
me: "good grief!"
 
my wife: "this car is so great in snow, too -- I'm king, er, queen of the road!"
 
me: "good bye, dear."
 
 
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Re: What would you buy? [driver100] by dinsmoor
Dec 15, 2005 (5:03 pm)
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Replying to: driver100 (Dec 02, 2005 4:23 pm)

Be careful. The X3 has had more problems than our Volvo XC90. At least Volvo accepts they have problems and inform the dealer on what to do to fix them. BMW continues to be slow on the information the dealer receives on common problems. Overall very disappointed by a +$40 machine. Even GM does better than BMW in this price range.....Back to Honda and Toyota I guess.

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