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Re: What would you buy? [bodble2] by bargamon1
Dec 02, 2005 (8:21 am)
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Replying to: bodble2 (Dec 01, 2005 10:27 pm)

ONly plus is the interior appointment of the x-5. Closer to replacement, the better the deals. Especially left over when they make the change. 4.4 might be very attractively priced.
 
The boot space is very small in the X5! It looks top heavy in its styling . X3 seems the proper dimension and looks right!
 
Im weird, I want wood or Alum trim on the dash to break it up. The HVAC seems small and not much to look at. Overall appearence is not as upscale as I would like. My problem is I am looking at a fully loaded version with all boxes checked so price goes up to about 47k. Is this interior thing important? Not really, but its a step down from my Audi. SOunds like I should just keep the AUdi, but I like to change up and like to at least move on up a bit. A4 is not a move up either! X5 3.0 manual seems silly as the performance is just not there.
 
The best value seem to take one off the lot and get the best lease possible. Be nice to get off the lot for under $500 per month. Might not be everyting I would want, but I'll feel good about it. Trying to option it up to something its not might not be the way either.
 
Just random thoughts. I appreciate the dialong.
 
Third options is buy 5year old small volvo wagon ($10,000) and drive it for 8 months and give it to my son when he is 16. he can learn to drive on it and with no lease payments I can just pocket the what I was paying on a lease which would in turn about pay for half his car. Also he don't have to learn on what would be my sweet new ride.
 
By then perhaps the world will change and I can continue to shop on a position of strength.
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Re: What would you buy? [bargamon1] by driver100
Dec 02, 2005 (4:23 pm)
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Replying to: bargamon1 (Dec 02, 2005 8:21 am)

Re: Volvos: We had a 1994 Volvo and even 3 dealers couldn't fix it. More repairs than any car I have ever had. I get the feeling that since Ford took it over it is really a Taurus in disguise. Daughters 1999 has had over $4,000 in transmission repairs and the dealer couldn't fix it either...actually had to go back to the manufacturer to be diagnosed. And, we loved our 80's Volvos, but never again.
I think the X3 looks a lot better than the X5. The interior could be a little more glamourous but it is very functional, and I think it is a design you don't get tired of like the phony wood and chrome Caddies etc.
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Re: What would you buy? [driver100] by bodble2
Dec 02, 2005 (6:15 pm)
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Replying to: driver100 (Dec 02, 2005 4:23 pm)

"I think the X3 looks a lot better than the X5."
 
Except for the front end. More precisely the bumper, lights, grille, and leading edge of the hood. The one-piece design for the hood/grille on the X5 looks great, IMHO.
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Re: What would you buy? [bargamon1] by markcincinnati
Dec 02, 2005 (8:26 pm)
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Replying to: bargamon1 (Dec 02, 2005 8:21 am)

We went to the dealer when the X3 sale prices were being advertised. We incorrectly believed the lease deals were for in stock vehicles and configured two or three versions of the X3 that we thought we could live with.
 
We wanted: 3.0, manual, sat nav, Sirius, upgraded sound system, Premium and sport -- AND we wanted teracotta leather seats.
 
We could not get the combination we wanted.
 
The dealer said, "no problem, we can order the exact car you want and keep the price per month on the lease as we agree upon." "Delivery time is less than 8 weeks."
 
We agreed upon a car that would be at full MSRP just south of $47K -- no upfronts, first month and a sec dep. Mo pay = $581 36 mo and 15K miles.
 
Nothing, at that moment, from Audi, BMW, Infiniti, Mercededs or Volvo came close.
 
Once again, we ordered the car we wanted -- now at some 28 cars ordered, we wonder what the fuss is about inventory.
 
After all, they never have what you want, you always have to take something less than what you want if you buy off the lot.
 
On the other hand, I know that the days of ordering your new Porsche and waiting up to 9 months (or longer) for the dealer's allocation soured many on the idea of ordering.
 
Odd, how people will buy $50K cars that are "almost" what they wanted.
 
At least with BMW (and Audi from my recent experince), you can get the car you want in about 2 months.
 
Immediate gratification may be nice -- but at this price point, why settle for "almost" what you want?
 
Regrets -- we should have ordered the privacy glass, we should have insisted on the home link transmitter -- but these ARE minor.
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Re: What would you buy? [markcincinnati] by kyfdx HOST
Dec 02, 2005 (8:38 pm)
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Dec 02, 2005 8:26 pm)

People are different..
 
I went to the same dealer last month.... They had exactly one example of the model I was looking for (an '05)... and, I bought it!!
 
Regrets? I wish I had more money...
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Re: What would you buy? [kyfdx] by markcincinnati
Dec 03, 2005 (8:08 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Dec 02, 2005 8:38 pm)

Me too -- and if they had the exact car we wanted, we would have taken it off the lot.
 
My Audi dealer, even when I offered two color combinations couldn't comply either.
 
I certainly don't go in with the intention that I will have to order, but that is how it always seems to pan out.
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Re: What would you buy? [markcincinnati] by kyfdx HOST
Dec 03, 2005 (8:30 am)
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Dec 03, 2005 8:08 am)

Oh.. it wasn't the exact one that I wanted... but, you can't order an '05, and get the killer lease deals...
 
I agree though.... to get our '03 325i, I had to look for a slightly used one, or order a new one... They almost never have the combo you want in stock..
 
I think I have a stronger negotiating position when I buy a car off the lot, though...
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: What would you buy? [kyfdx] by markcincinnati
Dec 04, 2005 (7:35 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Dec 03, 2005 8:30 am)

I wondered about that -- but the dealer in late March 2005 when we were buyting the BMW said "the deal is the deal" at the MSRP the lease payment is "X" on an in stock X3 or an ordered one.
 
We even changed the order within 5 days of the original configuration by adding Servotronic, and since the car was not yet on the line, the change was accepted (but I had to give them the $250 CASH.)
 
Ever larger inventories at our favorite Greater Cincinnati BMW dealer have not worked for us, thus far.
 
Ditto the Audi store, the Infiniti store and even the Chrysler store -- at every one of these dealers we were in an "order" or "settle" choice.
 
Since we were in no real hurry, we were "ripe" to order exactly what we wanted.
 
Of course, we didn't realize that a $47K BMW did not have homelink or power folding mirrors -- so add those to our order, next time, along with privacy glass.
 
Overall, we've not really missed the automatic built in garage door opener, but it seems like such an odd oversight at this price point (and shame on us for assuming it would be standard with the Premium package.)
 
We love our BMW, but based on MSRP they are really under-contented. Yet, the lease deals are soooo attractive you can crank a BMW up above $50K and still have a monthly payment that feels more like you are leasing a Chrysler 300C which is many thousands less.
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Thanks! by bargamon1
Dec 05, 2005 (8:06 am)
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Appreciate the heads up. I have a real nice Audi connection, a client of mine is the used car manager at a very large dealer. But none such at BMW. I will take do the fax thing with about 5 dealers in the state when the time comes and offer them the deal. Money facters are higher now, but I am assuming the x-3 is not the red hot offering flying out the door unless the pricing incentives are there.
 
The X3 may be the perfect vehicle for me!
 
I am hoping the Audi Q7 takes much demand out from the A6 avent and make my choice harder!
 
THe Volvo is already in the family (sister)and has 34k on it. I have a private master mechanic whom worked on my mercedes for 10 years and does volvos also. The history on this car is very clean.
 
My son though wants a manual like his pop! I think a Honda element or a Diesel Jetta wagon (all used mind you) would suffice best. Front or awd, good fuel econmy and good track record. I gotta bone upon the jettas though.
 
He is a musicion and Ice hockey player. Will need lots of usable space. The jetta gets great fuel milage and is not very very quick.
 
A high milage pleather base bones 2.5 X3 might be a good choice but I ain't going there!
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div2 by nyccarguy
Dec 05, 2005 (8:03 pm)
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If you're watching...Congrats on your new (used) X3! WHat options does your X3 have on it? Did you get rid of your wife's 5er or your Wrangler? I'm very eager to hear your impressions of the X3!

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