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Replying to: markcincinnati (Nov 29, 2005 5:31 am) Never would have guessed! Outside of the gagetry, just the driving experience. Do you miss the manual tranny? Is the X quick enough? What makes it fun vs. Comfortable?
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Replying to: bargamon1 (Nov 29, 2005 11:31 am) As of today, however, I miss it a tiny bit less -- my 6spd tiptronic seems to have learned a new trick, and that trick really minimizes the lag that these transmissions (and that includes BMW's) are known for. The "ideal" X3 is perhaps the ideal car for many reasons. The ideal X3 would have the SMG transmission, the 255HP 3.0 engine, fully trimmed body (now standard) and idrive with voice recognition. Of course I would want to take a serious test drive of the X3 with the 255HP engine and the manual transmission before I pulled the trigger. Moreover, if the dash of the X3 could be just a bit less rugged looking, that would make the interior much more attractive (not that it is ugly by any means.) When I got my Audi allroad, I thought I was getting a swiss army knife of cars -- at this point, the X3 when it is offered with the 255HP engine will probably be such a vehicle.
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Nov 30, 2005 6:14 pm) Audi interior is addictive! But Im afraid of missing the manual! S4 Avant? Interior still nicer than X3, but not much back seat! And price does matter! Im along the lines you were when you were shopping. A4 3.2 might do the trick. The 255 engine might come with a slight interior upgrade? Its not even the textured dash, just the lack of some trim appearences that make it somewhat spartan. Not too far off the mark though! There are worse things to ponder over. I am very impressed with the X-3! |
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OK, if money didn't matter what would your ideal car be? And, why do you like the X3 more than an X5? I can't think of a car that I would want more than an X3. I would like every option available and i wouldn't mind two of them, an automatic and stick. Personally, I don't like the size or looks of the X5.
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Replying to: driver100 (Dec 01, 2005 2:27 pm) The X3 vs the X5 (beyond the tax implications that apply at this point still this year) is a non-starter unless you are looking at the X5 V8. But, for the money, for the space, the handling, the luxury, etc., the X3 is the "little engine that could," so to speak. IMHO, comparing a $47K X3 and a like priced X5, the X3 is more, more, more of everthing. It is the updated version of the X5 in styling and performance. Now, please note I am comparing the X3 3.0 and the X5 3.0 and factoring in what can be had for the "money factor." I do not think the X5 is in any way not a great vehicle. The X3 is in some ways more upscale, more of a "hauler" and not quite as lux. But again, think of it in terms of $47K -- the X3 at that price point performs better and has more content. The X5, to me, seems somewhat more luxurious and more refined. The 6spd manual transmission equipped X3 with upscale everything is hardly a "ruffian." With the money is no object as a "mode," I would go with a no holds barred Cayenne, the X5 and then the X3. In the world in which most of us live, the X3 is just more than the X5 at a comparable price point. However, please note there are some tax advantages that the X5 has over the X3 that may make it cheaper. |
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Replying to: driver100 (Dec 01, 2005 2:27 pm)
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Replying to: bodble2 (Dec 01, 2005 10:27 pm) The boot space is very small in the X5! It looks top heavy in its styling . X3 seems the proper dimension and looks right! Im weird, I want wood or Alum trim on the dash to break it up. The HVAC seems small and not much to look at. Overall appearence is not as upscale as I would like. My problem is I am looking at a fully loaded version with all boxes checked so price goes up to about 47k. Is this interior thing important? Not really, but its a step down from my Audi. SOunds like I should just keep the AUdi, but I like to change up and like to at least move on up a bit. A4 is not a move up either! X5 3.0 manual seems silly as the performance is just not there. The best value seem to take one off the lot and get the best lease possible. Be nice to get off the lot for under $500 per month. Might not be everyting I would want, but I'll feel good about it. Trying to option it up to something its not might not be the way either. Just random thoughts. I appreciate the dialong. Third options is buy 5year old small volvo wagon ($10,000) and drive it for 8 months and give it to my son when he is 16. he can learn to drive on it and with no lease payments I can just pocket the what I was paying on a lease which would in turn about pay for half his car. Also he don't have to learn on what would be my sweet new ride. By then perhaps the world will change and I can continue to shop on a position of strength.
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Replying to: bargamon1 (Dec 02, 2005 8:21 am) I think the X3 looks a lot better than the X5. The interior could be a little more glamourous but it is very functional, and I think it is a design you don't get tired of like the phony wood and chrome Caddies etc.
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Replying to: driver100 (Dec 02, 2005 4:23 pm) Except for the front end. More precisely the bumper, lights, grille, and leading edge of the hood. The one-piece design for the hood/grille on the X5 looks great, IMHO. 
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Replying to: bargamon1 (Dec 02, 2005 8:21 am) We wanted: 3.0, manual, sat nav, Sirius, upgraded sound system, Premium and sport -- AND we wanted teracotta leather seats. We could not get the combination we wanted. The dealer said, "no problem, we can order the exact car you want and keep the price per month on the lease as we agree upon." "Delivery time is less than 8 weeks." We agreed upon a car that would be at full MSRP just south of $47K -- no upfronts, first month and a sec dep. Mo pay = $581  36 mo and 15K miles. Nothing, at that moment, from Audi, BMW, Infiniti, Mercededs or Volvo came close. Once again, we ordered the car we wanted -- now at some 28 cars ordered, we wonder what the fuss is about inventory. After all, they never have what you want, you always have to take something less than what you want if you buy off the lot. On the other hand, I know that the days of ordering your new Porsche and waiting up to 9 months (or longer) for the dealer's allocation soured many on the idea of ordering. Odd, how people will buy $50K cars that are "almost" what they wanted. At least with BMW (and Audi from my recent experince), you can get the car you want in about 2 months. Immediate gratification may be nice -- but at this price point, why settle for "almost" what you want? Regrets -- we should have ordered the privacy glass, we should have insisted on the home link transmitter -- but these ARE minor.
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