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Replying to: driver100 (Nov 26, 2005 12:51 pm)
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Replying to: div2 (Nov 26, 2005 1:39 pm) Only the Infiniti M35X seems to offer anything that reminds me of the "joy of driving" with which the German's seem to have been able to imbue their cars. Maybe the Infiniti has both the "Q" in the fun to drive dept and the reliability dept. I dunno. The X3, that my wife just let me drive from Cincinnati to Pittsburgh is a remarkable vehicle to spend 4 hours driving. This little (?) dude flies, is comfortable, responsive and so equipped with the upgraded sound system entertaining on several fronts. I have NOT owned a Lexus or any other Toyota car. I am not meaning to dis them. I have rented both Toyotas and Lexus cars and always found them "silent" and well-built (no rattles or other annoying problems so many rentals have.) Even the GS's tho don't feel the same connectivity to the art and science of driving as even the most pedestrian, stripped X3 2.5. But, that is MY OPINION. Dear BMW, Please make your cars more reliable (not that we have had ANY problems with either one we have had), but don't make them boring. For an example of boring, you have but to look at most of your American and Japanese competition. Regards, A Loyal (so far) German car fan (and his wife.) |
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I recall driving my Uncles LS430 and it was amazing. The car did everything almost to perfection. Comfortable, quiet, and the Mark Levinson was amazing. What a bore it was to drive. It a better Caddy, or at least a few years ago. No doubt its a fine car. Its for people who don't like to drive. In that, it washes out the road, noise, and is very peaceful. Perhaps very pleasent for the passengers, but I like the feel of moving. Just personal preference. My Sienna Limited minivan is perfect for the job its intended to do. Reliable, durable (I hope!) and very comfortable. Almost lexus like in its appointments. No lexus for me. Thank you though for building nice cars for other people. Infiniti are poser cars. They simulate performance and feel, but don't quite get it.
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Replying to: bargamon1 (Nov 27, 2005 8:18 pm)
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Replying to: div2 (Nov 28, 2005 8:05 am) I dug up an old review of the car and they said "made for people who don't like to drive" and as much as I did not want to hear it, its was true. Lexus makes a fine auto for the majority of the american market that wants to isolate the world. The Blvd cruisers of our youth were the envy and status symbol to announce who has arrived! Lexus does what they do perhaps the best on the planet for the money! That being the LS. I hate the RX!! A total fashion car! No way on my list. Im considering the X3, FX35 (poser I know!), 3.4 A4 manual, A6 Avant, and maybe the ML350. Used to have a ML320 and liked it alot. I want Manual Tranny so its likely the audi vs. Bmw. Wish the audi Q 5 was available! Mark in Cincy: Question, if the mrs walked out and said you can take your pick of either cars, which one would it be? You have my top two picks and have been down my road. This coming out of a manual allroad myself. I posed this to you before, but now you have lived with both now for some time, I wonder if its changed? |
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The Audi has voice recognition for many of the functions that I consider important -- this alone then means the Audi has what I want as a safety feature. If the X3 had voice command and the decision would be painfully difficult. I love the X3 -- in many ways it is more "fun" but it needs just a couple of Lux touches to round it out. I think next year, it will have these touches.
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Nov 29, 2005 5:31 am) Never would have guessed! Outside of the gagetry, just the driving experience. Do you miss the manual tranny? Is the X quick enough? What makes it fun vs. Comfortable?
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Replying to: bargamon1 (Nov 29, 2005 11:31 am) As of today, however, I miss it a tiny bit less -- my 6spd tiptronic seems to have learned a new trick, and that trick really minimizes the lag that these transmissions (and that includes BMW's) are known for. The "ideal" X3 is perhaps the ideal car for many reasons. The ideal X3 would have the SMG transmission, the 255HP 3.0 engine, fully trimmed body (now standard) and idrive with voice recognition. Of course I would want to take a serious test drive of the X3 with the 255HP engine and the manual transmission before I pulled the trigger. Moreover, if the dash of the X3 could be just a bit less rugged looking, that would make the interior much more attractive (not that it is ugly by any means.) When I got my Audi allroad, I thought I was getting a swiss army knife of cars -- at this point, the X3 when it is offered with the 255HP engine will probably be such a vehicle.
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Nov 30, 2005 6:14 pm) Audi interior is addictive! But Im afraid of missing the manual! S4 Avant? Interior still nicer than X3, but not much back seat! And price does matter! Im along the lines you were when you were shopping. A4 3.2 might do the trick. The 255 engine might come with a slight interior upgrade? Its not even the textured dash, just the lack of some trim appearences that make it somewhat spartan. Not too far off the mark though! There are worse things to ponder over. I am very impressed with the X-3! |
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OK, if money didn't matter what would your ideal car be? And, why do you like the X3 more than an X5? I can't think of a car that I would want more than an X3. I would like every option available and i wouldn't mind two of them, an automatic and stick. Personally, I don't like the size or looks of the X5.
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