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X3s with Painted bumpers by nyccarguy
Nov 20, 2005 (2:32 pm)
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I saw a few of these on a local dealer's lot today. Mark, I know you have the black and don't mind the plastic bumpers (I agree with you), but on the other colors, the X3 really looks sharp with body colored bumpers.
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Re: X3s with Painted bumpers [nyccarguy] by markcincinnati
Nov 23, 2005 (8:36 pm)
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Replying to: nyccarguy (Nov 20, 2005 2:32 pm)

I saw a silver one with the painted bumpers -- looks GREAT!
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Re: X3s with Painted bumpers [markcincinnati] by kyfdx HOST
Nov 23, 2005 (8:38 pm)
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Nov 23, 2005 8:36 pm)

They were unloading about eight of them off the transporter Saturday at The BMW Store.. I really like the painted bumpers...
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Leather or vinyl by bodble2
Nov 24, 2005 (4:23 pm)
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Anyone purchase their X3 with the standard leatherette seats? And do you regret not getting the leather?
 
We have the leatherette in our Mini, and to me, it looks good and works great (low maintenance!). But in a BMW costing twice as much, I'm not sure if it would look the part.
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Re: Leather or vinyl [bodble2] by bdr127
Nov 24, 2005 (5:06 pm)
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Replying to: bodble2 (Nov 24, 2005 4:23 pm)

Some people can't even tell the difference. In my direct side-by-side comparison, I can see where the leather is a little softer and supple. Certainly the longevity and wear is much better for the leatherette.... But, ultimately, it is up to the buyer to decide if it is worth the extra $$$.
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Re: Leather or vinyl [bodble2] by markcincinnati
Nov 25, 2005 (6:25 am)
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Replying to: bodble2 (Nov 24, 2005 4:23 pm)

The dealer here in Cincinnati that we use offers "like for like" cars when yours is in for service.
 
We have a 2005 X3 with Premium, Cold, Sport packages (plus a bunch of other options.) The car is Jet Black gloss with the Terracotta "Montana" leather sport seats.
 
Further we have the optional higher-zoot sound system, Sirius and it is all in the 3.0 6spd manual chassis.
 
OK, so what?
 
Well, we were in to have the phone cradle and kleen wheels installed and they offered us the use of a 2005 2.5 (auto) "base everything" model.
 
The car was red with the vanilla colored plastic seats.
 
We felt like we had moved from the Trump Tower to the "projects" the interior look and feel were so stark in comparison with what we were used to.
 
We basically said "ewww!"
 
The designers of the X3 did so many things right -- but one of the things they didn't do was pick great "leatherette." And, the material of the dash with the coarse grained look is, IMHO, out of character with the rest of the vehicle (at least as we have ours equipped.)
 
Obviously, these observations and opinions are subjective to the max. But it is our considered opinion that there is a huge difference between the regular plastic seats and the Montana leather (and, as noted, we have the sport seats, too.)
 
Your opinion, however, is the one that matters.
 
Question -- how long do you plan to keep the car?
 
And, if you plan to buy the car with some thought of getting rid of it before it dies completely, the used car with leather probably will have at the very least a higher "subjective" retained value than the non-leather equipped version.
 
 
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Re: Leather or vinyl [markcincinnati] by bodble2
Nov 25, 2005 (9:17 am)
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Replying to: markcincinnati (Nov 25, 2005 6:25 am)

I usually don't keep my cars for very long. 3 years avg, but I get the itch after about 18 months. As for the X3, if I get one, I figure I would either go full-course meal, or go econo-class, get a plain one just to get the x-drive. So I figure, if I go plain-jane, why even bother with leather. To be honest, the leatherette in the Mini doesn't look half bad.
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Re: Leather or vinyl [bodble2] by driver100
Nov 26, 2005 (12:51 pm)
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Replying to: bodble2 (Nov 24, 2005 4:23 pm)

I have a 2.5 2004 X3 with leatherette seats and I have never felt sorry or disappointed. I think if you were going to keep the car for a long time you would get your moneys worth from real leather. Since you are from Canada, the cost of a base X3 will be about the same as Mark's fully equipped model in the U.S.
I really like my X3 and I don't think there is anything like it. But the new Consumers Reports guide says the X3 and X5 have just reached an average repair rate, while many Japanese models have above average ratings. It makes me wonder how long I will want to hold on to my X3 if it starts having big problems. The money for leather might be better spent on a Lexus that will be trouble free for a much longer time.
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Re: Leather or vinyl [driver100] by div2
Nov 26, 2005 (1:39 pm)
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Replying to: driver100 (Nov 26, 2005 12:51 pm)

Problem is, I'd die of boredom if I was forced to drive any Toyota other than the MR2.
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Re: Leather or vinyl [div2] by markcincinnati
Nov 26, 2005 (3:18 pm)
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Replying to: div2 (Nov 26, 2005 1:39 pm)

In one sentence, one succinct lay down of 18 words, you have said volumes. While I too want reliable cars, ever more reliable, of course. I would rather be engaged in and enjoying the experience.
 
Only the Infiniti M35X seems to offer anything that reminds me of the "joy of driving" with which the German's seem to have been able to imbue their cars.
 
Maybe the Infiniti has both the "Q" in the fun to drive dept and the reliability dept. I dunno.
 
The X3, that my wife just let me drive from Cincinnati to Pittsburgh is a remarkable vehicle to spend 4 hours driving.
 
This little (?) dude flies, is comfortable, responsive and so equipped with the upgraded sound system entertaining on several fronts.
 
I have NOT owned a Lexus or any other Toyota car.
 
I am not meaning to dis them. I have rented both Toyotas and Lexus cars and always found them "silent" and well-built (no rattles or other annoying problems so many rentals have.) Even the GS's tho don't feel the same connectivity to the art and science of driving as even the most pedestrian, stripped X3 2.5.
 
But, that is MY OPINION.
 
Dear BMW,
 
Please make your cars more reliable (not that we have had ANY problems with either one we have had), but don't make them boring. For an example of boring, you have but to look at most of your American and Japanese competition.
 
Regards,
 
A Loyal (so far) German car fan (and his wife.)

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