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Long-Term Test: 2005 BMW X3 by steve_ HOST
Aug 26, 2005 (2:25 pm)
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In case you missed the update that came out August 1 (the X3 hasn't had much luck in Santa Monica):
 
Road Test (Inside Line )
 
Steve, Host
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Re: Lease Comparison / Apples to Oranges [timmboj] by delrick
Aug 26, 2005 (2:48 pm)
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Replying to: timmboj (Aug 26, 2005 11:02 am)

Given the powerful BMW resale value, as reflected in the 36 month 60% plus residual, and the very competitive money factors that BMW is offering, you will definitely be able to get a lot more vehicle for your lease dollar in the BMW versus the Saturn.
 
A well equipped X3 3.0 should be around $400/month.
 
Not sure what the Saturn would run you, but the difference in vehicles should justify and additional cost, if it is affordable to you.
 
And all of the maintenance on the BMW is included in the price......
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Re: Long-Term Test: 2005 BMW X3 [steve_] by kdshapiro
Aug 26, 2005 (5:28 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Aug 26, 2005 2:25 pm)

Ouch - that's one unlucky X3.
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Re: Long-Term Test: 2005 BMW X3 [steve_] by driver100
Aug 27, 2005 (6:05 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Aug 26, 2005 2:25 pm)

I am not sure that is a fair test. The X3 is not an off road SUV as in say a Jeep. It is an SAV (Sport Activity Vehicle) and the all wheel drive and other features are to make it a more sophisticated driving experience - not necessarily to be bouncing all over the place on back roads. I would like to see what would happen if they took other vehicles on those same roads, probably the real SUV's would not fare any better.
 
They also seem to find fault with the X3 braking so fast, that the guy in the Chev couldn't stop in time. Does that mean the X3 has brakes that are too good, and should be less powerful in case you have a GM car behind you.
 
The testers have done a lot of damage in very few miles.
 
Maybe the testers could be morons!
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Re: Long-Term Test: 2005 BMW X3 [driver100] by kyfdx HOST
Aug 27, 2005 (6:24 am)
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Replying to: driver100 (Aug 27, 2005 6:05 am)

Yeah... I can just imagine the "dirt road" they took it on, and at what speeds.. And, with the 18" sport wheels and lowered suspension..
 
That combination is definitely not designed for off-road..
 
That said, I still wouldn't be too happy about my entire rear suspension failing.. Something tells me that vehicle got the same test they would give a Nissan Xterra or Toyota 4Runner... The X3 is just not that kind of vehicle, and isn't even advertised as such...
 
I always laugh when I see the Honda Ridgeline commercials, with the vehicle bouncing over the rutted cart path.. I think they are idiots to show the vehicle where it is probably the weakest in comparison to it's competitors... They would be better off showing the wife putting groceries in it... At least BMW shows the car on the road.. .where it blows away the competition...
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Good Deal on a Lease??? by bmwbob277
Aug 27, 2005 (9:54 pm)
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to KYFDX: I need to impose on your expertise pertaing to a lease that I'm working on for a 2005 X-3 3.0. In 12/03 I leased an X-5 that cost me $41,50.00. I am now rolling it over into a new lease on an 05 X-3.the MSRP is $39,695.00, residual is 70%,an miles 10,000,penality $0.20,residual is $27,786.50,term 24 months,cap cost, $37,205.00, trade $3,849.03,bank fee $625.00 adjusted cap $34,930.27,lease factor .00120 , calif tire fee $8.75,base monthly rental $372.92,use tax $28.90, total monthly payment $401.82,DMV fee $314.00, cap reduction tax$224.73, working cash payment $3,849.03,drive off $3,849.03. I would appreciate you imput. Thanks Bmwbob27
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Re: Lease Comparison / Apples to Oranges [delrick] by timmboj
Aug 28, 2005 (3:42 am)
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Replying to: delrick (Aug 26, 2005 2:48 pm)

I agree "delrick" -- especially after this weekend.
 
I test drove the Saturn Saturday morning. It was nice and all, but just not what I was hoping it'd be. Afterward I popped into my BMW dealership for a spin in the X3 3.0 (I'd never driven one, just looked at and read about them) It was VERY nice. What a ride! Reminded me of my old 330i. I'm sold! Gas mileage sucks though.
 
I'm having trouble finding just what I want of the remaining 2005's. I really wanted a 6-Speed manual. Wonder if I shouldn't consider the 2.5 in a 6-speed? There may be more of those. Or get an automatic in the 3.0? Decisions... decisions....
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Re: Good Deal on a Lease??? [bmwbob277] by kyfdx HOST
Aug 28, 2005 (8:06 am)
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Replying to: bmwbob277 (Aug 27, 2005 9:54 pm)

1) I don't like putting that much money upfront on a lease.. I understand that it is trade equity, so it isn't like you are writing a check.. but, anyway... besides that..
 
2) I like the deal.. It looks like no security deposit, though.. If you took $450 of that money and made a security deposit, they money factor would come down, and your payment would go up slightly, but you'd be ahead for the term of the lease.. A payment increase of about $12-$13, but a net gain of $150-$200, at the end of lease...
 
3) You could do a 39 month lease with the same exact structure as this one, and the payment would be $50/mo. less.... About $352/mo. including tax.. And, when you figure the downpayment and fees are spread over 39 months, instead of 24 months, the actual savings is closer to $100/mo...
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: Lease Comparison / Apples to Oranges [timmboj] by blackeye800
Aug 28, 2005 (9:41 am)
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Replying to: timmboj (Aug 28, 2005 3:42 am)

Just clocked up my first 1000 miles in 3 weeks on 05 X3 3.0 "> and averaged 22.8 mpg on city and state roads - no highway miles. Me thinks it is fair mpg for a SAV.

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