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#332 of 1826 BMW's super diesel by harlequin1971
Jun 04, 2004 (1:35 pm)
read about it in R&T.If they could qualify that in the US, it would be a great motor...though maybe too big for the 1/2-series.
IIRC - it was around 250hp and 400 ft lbs of torque. But then I just skimmed it last night and don't have it close by...
Anyone else catch that article?
it was July R&T, Diesel was in the article title...some new process they are using, a double turbo.
How would 250 hp and 27 mpg strike you? It struck them as a marvelous idea long overdue.
Get ready, because 2007-2010 will be the era of diesel engines in the US as the new fuels and rising prices will drive us into more efficient machines that can still haul butt around town.
#333 of 1826 "The era of diesel engines" by jchan2
Jun 04, 2004 (6:51 pm)
Good. When can we expect more gasoline stations selling diesel?#335 of 1826 They don't... by jrct9454
Jun 05, 2004 (5:14 am)
...and are the best engines in the lineup - of BMW, MB, and VW, and most of the other Europeans, as well.We just got back from trip to the UK. Four of us, and 150 lbs of luggage, in a Vauxhall Vectra 5 dr hatch [think Malibu Maxx] diesel averaged 35 mpg under all conditions, including a lot of puttering around towns. Average motor fuel cost: 83 pence a liter, or about $5.60 per US gallon.
Anyone who has driven a contemporary diesel will tell you this is the best alternative going.
#336 of 1826 Mercedes Benz E320 CDI by jchan2
Jun 05, 2004 (1:18 pm)
is the best evidence the new diesels are a great alternative engine to the traditional Gas engines.#337 of 1826 diesel possibilities by harlequin1971
Jun 06, 2004 (12:42 am)
from R&T (I'm home now):2-stage, turbocharged diesel engines
BMW - 3.0L inline6 (268 bhp and 413 lb-ft torque)
Opel - 2.0L inline4 (209 bhp and 295 lb-ft)
writer tested a slightly different version of the 3.0L BMW (in US) in a 530d, (369 lb-ft at 2000 rpm) had plenty of power, after a 364 mile trip, average 28.7 mpg versus a normal 530i which averaged 21.1 mpg in a different test by same driver. This car was provided by the BMW guys, not for sale here, yet.
Personally, a 200 hp I4 diesel with 300 torque would move the 1/2 series just fine by my tastes.
In fact, I find the 100 hp VW TDI to be decent, better even than the normal gas engine, since the torque is much higher and makes city driving much smoother...
I asked for this in the beginning, slick, small BMW, add in the award winning BMW diesel engine, and call me a customer in waiting.
Then they go and do this (whacky design) to us and yank the 1 from our shores for the time being. BMW-USA is a fickle, mis-guided crew in my mind...had no idea how to market the 318ti, have no idea how to keep their "market niche" if they offer cheap cars in their lineups...
Whatever. As it is, the Volvo S40 redesign is almost "nail on" what I was looking for...add in the upgraded T5 and I have something to save for...
#338 of 1826 Toss In by jchan2
Jun 06, 2004 (4:28 am)
a diesel, and you may be the first one to drive a diesel Volvo. (if they build one)#339 of 1826 ford by harlequin1971
Jun 07, 2004 (12:11 pm)
has a very nice diesel in EU in the Focus lineup, IIRC...A little system's share could put a diesel in the US for Volvo, would be worthy a consideration.
Still, the base S40 gets 31mpg highway, which is nice...would be much better than my Elantra with the same mpg that often only gets 26-27 mpg in mixed driving.
I really need to set off a Saturday to do some driving, the new 100 hp diesel Jetta/Golf, the 138 hp diesel passat, the S40 and the 9-2x Linear.
I just can't fathom going past $25k, so the up-grade engines are a touch out of reach...but I do like the idea of the S40 better than the 9-2x at this point...of course, that is always subject to change.
#340 of 1826 I'm waiting by jchan2
Jun 07, 2004 (12:51 pm)
for the year end sales to do my car shopping. I'm mainly thinking of a Honda Accord, but if the deals are good enough on Saabs, Volvos, Infinitis and Acuras I may stretch the budget and get one of those instead. For the Infinti, I'm mainly looking at the slow selling and roomy I35, which I'm sure can be bough heavily discounted. The Saab would be the 9-3 Linear and the Volvo could be either the S40 2.4i or the S60, depending on the deal.#341 of 1826 Make sure you check the defunct I35's ride comfort on rough roads by creakid1
Jun 07, 2004 (2:12 pm)
let alone the handling, especially the rear-tire road-contact over bumpy corners.- jchan2 (Jun 07, 2004 4:55 pm)
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