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1809 messages, Last post on Nov 23, 2009 at 4:49 PM
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Has anyone had a chance to compare the M-Sport to the standard suspension (with performance tires, not the available all-seasons which presumably bring a lower speed limiter with them) on the 135i? I assume both suspensions are the same and that the M-Sport is differentiated only by the use of the staggered tire set up. The 1 series is reported to understeer more than the 3. If my assumption about setup is correct, does the standard car give more neutral (less understeer) handling than the M-Sport? |
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The 135i isn't available with standard suspension. Only M-Sport. Do they really make them available with all season tires in America? Does anybody want all seasons, ever, at all?
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Replying to: mr42hh (Aug 09, 2009 10:20 pm) Yep, the only way to get decent tread mileage is with all-seasons, I find that I can't get much more than 15,000 miles on sticky-tread summer performance tires. There are plenty of performance rated A/S tires that'll deliver twice that mileage on a rwd car. |
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Replying to: mr42hh (Aug 09, 2009 10:20 pm) |
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Replying to: nkeen (Aug 13, 2009 3:45 am) So, what are "mixed performance tires?" Beats me. As for understeer/oversteer. Lots of factors play into the understeer equation. On the 135i, the staggered sized wheels as well as more weight over the nose makes it more likely to push. No doubt, BMW designed the suspension to compensate (roll bar thickness, spring rates, rebound dampening, etc.) to make the 135i handle the way they want it to. On the 128i, certainly a lighter nose and 4 identical tires all around make for less tendency to understeer - and the all-seasons have less grip than "performance" tires, which affects handling balance too. Personally, I think the 128i with standard suspension is the most neutral and entertaining to drive. More than enough power to light up the tires, and less grip means it's easier to get the car sideways.
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Replying to: fedlawman (Aug 13, 2009 7:05 am) |
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Replying to: fedlawman (Aug 13, 2009 7:05 am) They probably mean performance rated all seasons. Tirerack lists several categories of these> Ultra High Performance All-Season You want all-season versatility (including light snow traction) and are willing to trade some dry and wet traction and handling to get it. High Performance All-Season You want all-season versatility (including light snow traction) to drive your sports coupe or sedan in all weather conditions. Performance All-Season You want all-season versatility (including light snow traction) with a mixture of performance and appearance at a reasonable price.
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Replying to: andys120 (Aug 25, 2009 6:50 am) |
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| Love to get a 128i but am holding out for when BMW brings in the four cylinder diesels in a few years. Should be a great car with great mileage! | |
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Replying to: runningdoc (Jun 23, 2009 2:28 pm) Standard Stereo pretty good also. All together....nice car for the deal I got....and believe me I tested them all and did my homework. cs |
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