Last post on Nov 13, 2013 at 8:08 AM
You are in the BMW 1-Series
What is this discussion about?
BMW 1 Series, Coupe, Convertible, Sedan
#1781 of 1843 Re: 1 vs 3 looks [bodble2]
Jun 12, 2009 (5:02 am)
Well, I'm not retired, but my wife is from here & the aerospace company where I've worked for 29+ years is here, so I'm here too, sadly.
Think of me the next time you go through Active Pass and watch bald eagles fishing for salmon. I used to do that, in my sailboat.
#1782 of 1843 nobody talks about roof rack for bike?
Jun 15, 2009 (5:37 pm)
Can somebody recommend where to buy this kind of parts?
Like Thule TH460R. RB43. 3028, which bike carrier is better, etc.
Jun 16, 2009 (7:36 pm)
I've got the Thule racks on my '01 Prelude and love 'em. They are super sturdy and once you figure out how to put them on, it is a quick and easy 5 minute hob to take on and off.
#1784 of 1843 A Question of the 128i
Jun 23, 2009 (2:28 pm)
So a question for you owners of the 128i series. I am looking at purchasing one, and trying to get feedback from previous owners. In particular, I'd like your thoughts of the pros and cons of the car in your opinion... I'd appreciate any input or experience of current owners!
#1785 of 1843 where are these cars hiding?
Jul 12, 2009 (5:24 pm)
I would identify the 128i as my choice were I able to buy a new car at this time. I live in the Northeast and travel on interstates frequently as well as the usual local driving. Despite effort I have only seen one 1 series BMW in the two years since they arrived. I'm beginning to think that the car is a hoax like the moon landing. Where are they selling and showing?
#1786 of 1843 135i M-Sport versus std (ie sport) suspension
Aug 08, 2009 (5:46 pm)
Has anyone had a chance to compare the M-Sport to the standard suspension (with performance tires, not the available all-seasons which presumably bring a lower speed limiter with them) on the 135i? I assume both suspensions are the same and that the M-Sport is differentiated only by the use of the staggered tire set up.
The 1 series is reported to understeer more than the 3. If my assumption about setup is correct, does the standard car give more neutral (less understeer) handling than the M-Sport?
#1787 of 1843 All seasons... WTF?
Aug 09, 2009 (10:20 pm)
The 135i isn't available with standard suspension. Only M-Sport.
Do they really make them available with all season tires in America? Does anybody want all seasons, ever, at all?
#1788 of 1843 Re: All seasons... WTF? [mr42hh]
Aug 10, 2009 (8:23 am)
Does anybody want all seasons, ever, at all?
Yep, the only way to get decent tread mileage is with all-seasons, I find that I can't get much more than 15,000 miles on sticky-tread summer performance tires. There are plenty of performance rated A/S tires that'll deliver twice that mileage on a rwd car.
#1789 of 1843 Re: All seasons... WTF? [mr42hh]
Aug 13, 2009 (3:45 am)
Understood -- but I wondered whether the staggered wheel set up on the cars with the the M-Sport option affects the understeer/oversteer equation when compared with the standard setup.
#1790 of 1843 Re: All seasons... WTF? [nkeen]
Aug 13, 2009 (7:05 am)
Reading the specs, both packages (Sport and M Sport) have the same suspension and staggered setup. The difference, besides some trim, appears to be "performance tires" in the Sport Package vs. "mixed performance tires" in the M Sport Package.
So, what are "mixed performance tires?" Beats me.
As for understeer/oversteer. Lots of factors play into the understeer equation. On the 135i, the staggered sized wheels as well as more weight over the nose makes it more likely to push. No doubt, BMW designed the suspension to compensate (roll bar thickness, spring rates, rebound dampening, etc.) to make the 135i handle the way they want it to.
On the 128i, certainly a lighter nose and 4 identical tires all around make for less tendency to understeer - and the all-seasons have less grip than "performance" tires, which affects handling balance too.
Personally, I think the 128i with standard suspension is the most neutral and entertaining to drive. More than enough power to light up the tires, and less grip means it's easier to get the car sideways.