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You are in the BMW 1-Series
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BMW 1 Series, Coupe, Convertible, Sedan
#1723 of 1843 Re: Since... [mrrat]
Oct 13, 2008 (12:42 pm)
There are plenty of folks driving around in their cheap-leased BMWs who could not afford to buy them. Driving a typically-leased 2008 328i, pretty well-loaded with premium package and AT for only $450-$500 a month? Too many "pretenders" out there.
Now, for the first time in many years the BMW buyers will outnumber the leasees, giving much needed status back to the brand. Those who can afford one, will be driving one. The "pretenders" can go back to leasing a Honda Accord. Their bubble has finally burst.
Natural selection has finally come to BMW and I for one am glad of it.
#1724 of 1843 Re: Since... [hpowders]
Oct 13, 2008 (4:16 pm)
But how about the folks who squeak into ownership by buying bare-bones, leatherette-clad BMWs ---- are those considered pretenders too?
#1725 of 1843 Re: Since... [bodble2]
Oct 13, 2008 (4:27 pm)
No, they are considered the smart ones!
#1726 of 1843 Re: Since... [circlew]
Oct 13, 2008 (6:33 pm)
Exactly! All you need is the sport package. Buying the other stuff is irrelevant.
The smart folks know this! The others buy their BMWs "loaded."
#1727 of 1843 Money factor and residual on '08 135i
Nov 19, 2008 (7:18 pm)
Hoping someone reads this forum
My lease on a 328xi is ending rather shortly and I have the opportunity to lease an '08 135i *at invoice* (inc. premium, cold weather, auto tranny, metallic paint, and dest charge). The MSRP is 41,600.
I will not be putting down any money up front beyond first month, acq. fee, and license/reg. The dealer quoted me a 56% residual and .003 money factor for 36 months/10k per year.
Does this sound right? I've been trying to find some current info, but the 1-series forums seem rather dead.
#1728 of 1843 Re: Money factor and residual on '08 135i [tennberg]
Nov 20, 2008 (10:33 am)
According to bimmerfest, the residual at 36 months for 15k per year is 56%. For 10k, they should be adding 3% to that (59%). Dealer can't change residual, so its possible he just misquoted, failing to take the 10k/year into account.
The base rate on the 135 for 36 months is .00285.
Just so you are aware, for a 3yr/30k lease on a 335i sedan, they are currently offering a 63% residual and .00175 base rate money factor. The coupe is 61% and .00200. In other words, the 135 is still not a good deal when leasing.
#1729 of 1843 Re: Since... [hpowders]
Dec 19, 2008 (3:26 pm)
"...ordering the reliable inline six "
hpowders, you've mentioned the "reliable inline six" several times. You do know that all 1series and 3 series (except the M3) are inline sixes, right? Just that the x35 are twin turbo versus the non-turbo. Just curious what is meant by "the reliable inline six". Are you meaning the non-turbo inline 6? ...and both are 3.0 liters so lets let's not start talking engine size either!
#1730 of 1843 Re: Since... [chadx]
Dec 19, 2008 (5:00 pm)
Hmm....can you even say "reliable" and BMW in the same sentence?!
#1731 of 1843 Re: Since... [chadx]
Dec 19, 2008 (11:57 pm)
"You do know that all 1series and 3 series (except the M3) are inline sixes, right?"
Except for the 116i, 118i, 120i, 118d, 120d, 123d, 316i, 318i, 320i, 320is, 318i, 320i and Alpina D3, you mean?
If you look at world-wide sales proportions, 6-cylinder 3-series are maybe 20%. For the 1-series, maybe 5%.
#1732 of 1843 Re: Since... [chadx]
Dec 21, 2008 (3:31 pm)
Yup....the non-turbo is what I meant by the reliable inline 6; the one without the high pressure fuel pump and fuel injector problems.
I recently bought a 328i over a 335i-much better mpg with a more reliable engine. So my drive to the bank takes 13 seconds longer. I can live with that.
If I were looking at a 1 Series, I would choose a 128i coupe over a 135i for the same reasons.