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Re: My $.02 [fedlawman] by circlew
Sep 11, 2008 (3:56 am)
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Replying to: fedlawman (Sep 10, 2008 9:43 pm)

When it comes to cars, I respect your knowledge and capabilities. You are one of the best teachers for me over the last 3 years. Please drive these 2 and let us know what you think.
 
In my non-professional opinion, the added cost for the power and brakes alone make the 135i a screaming bargain for someone like you who WOULD track the car at least 6 - 10 times per year but only you could make that personal choice and probably could get as much from the 128 on the track as well. Coming out of the turns without TC/DSC would give the 135i and edge that IMHO is undeniable.
 
I tend to purchase as TM does...give me the added performance up front.
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: My $.02 [tagman] by fedlawman
Sep 11, 2008 (7:26 am)
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Replying to: tagman (Sep 10, 2008 10:47 pm)

I mostly agree with you.
 
"The increase in weight for the 135i is all of 3.5%."
 
Using a percentage here gives the illusion of an insignificant difference. I still say 120 lbs is 120 lbs - mostly right over the front axle. Of course, you're talking to someone who removed the air conditioning from his M3 to shave 30 lbs off the nose .
 
As for power, I'm with you. The difference is dramatic and intoxicating. The 128i is quick - the 135i is a rocket.
 
On the street, who cares about another 1" diameter on the rotors? You'll never fade either system.
 
Another minus (in my book) for the 135i is the twin-turbo engine itself. If I were a leasing/short-term ownership kind of guy, I wouldn't hesitate to choose the 135i. But if I was looking for a long-term relationship with a 1-series, I wouldn't touch the hot running, no dipstick TT with a ten foot pole.
 
Don't take it personally Tag. The 135i is a car that I could easily own and I'm jealous that you have one. If I were in the market for a car right now, it would be on my very short list (again, I wouldn't choose the 128i either - simply because of the power deficit).
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Re: My $.02 [circlew] by fedlawman
Sep 11, 2008 (7:32 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Sep 11, 2008 3:56 am)

I don't know if I deserve the compliment, but thanks. Yes, I do want to drive them.
 
I agree the 135i is the better bargain. If I owned a 135i though, I wouldn't track it (OK, maybe just once to see). It's too heavy and luxurious to subject to that abuse. No, I'd probably leave it mostly stock and enjoy it's combination of sport and comfort on the street.
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Re: My $.02 [fedlawman] by qbrozen
Sep 11, 2008 (7:42 am)
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Replying to: fedlawman (Sep 11, 2008 7:32 am)

It's too heavy and luxurious to subject to that abuse.
 
LOL!
 
I'm not laughing at you ... kinda laughing at myself. I track my 3750lb G35X.
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Re: Having second thoughts about the 135i [tagman] by bodble2
Sep 11, 2008 (8:35 am)
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Replying to: tagman (Sep 10, 2008 9:26 pm)

People have a special relationship with cars because (for most people) they perceive their cars to be an extension of their personality, accurately or not. Also, because cars are constantly on public display, people view them as a vehicle (pardon the pun!) for personal advertisement for whatever qualities they want to project (real or imagined), be it wealth, sexiness, machismo, coolness, etc. And of course, the high cost of a car is also a factor in creating this "passionate" relationship. I would hypothecate that if your refrigerator costs $40K and you can customize it with personal options and lug it around in public, you may also develop a "passionate relationship" with it too!
 
Now the question is why is it mostly men that bond with their cars. I guess it's the machismo ingrained into the male psyche by years of propaganda advertising. And I guess clothes and shoes to women are what cars are to men.
 
As for the question, am I messing with you? Yeah, maybe, since I'm part of that herd that has an inexplicable bonding with cars. But when you cut out all the rhetoric and analyze the nuts and bolts (again, pardon the pun), that is what it is.
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Re: My $.02 [fedlawman] by tagman
Sep 11, 2008 (8:35 am)
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Replying to: fedlawman (Sep 11, 2008 7:26 am)

you're talking to someone who removed the air conditioning from his M3 to shave 30 lbs off the nose
 
That says it all. I understand.
 
I had a Lotus Elise two years ago, and I can genuinely appreciate the whole idea of "less is more".
 
TM
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Re: Having second thoughts about the 135i [bodble2] by tagman
Sep 11, 2008 (8:42 am)
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Replying to: bodble2 (Sep 11, 2008 8:35 am)

Good post.
 
No doubt that the selection of a vehicle can be one of the most emotional, subjective and irrational purchases that folks can make.
 
TM
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Re: Having second thoughts about the 135i [tagman] by circlew
Sep 11, 2008 (2:37 pm)
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Replying to: tagman (Sep 11, 2008 8:42 am)

No doubt that the selection of a vehicle can be one of the most emotional, subjective and irrational purchases that folks can make.
 
So is a pair of shoes! If it weren't for women, no Malls would exist, only car dealers!
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: Having second thoughts about the 135i [circlew] by tagman
Sep 11, 2008 (4:36 pm)
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Replying to: circlew (Sep 11, 2008 2:37 pm)

So is a pair of shoes! If it weren't for women, no Malls would exist, only car dealers!
 
HA HA!! Ain't that the truth!
 
Car dealers... and if ya' don't mind... sporting goods stores and/or Bass Pro Shops!... LOL!
 
 
 
TM
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Re: Having second thoughts about the 135i [tagman] by bodble2
Sep 11, 2008 (5:19 pm)
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Replying to: tagman (Sep 11, 2008 4:36 pm)

Don't forget Best Buy!

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