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1809 messages, Last post on Nov 23, 2009 at 4:49 PM
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Replying to: tagman (Sep 10, 2008 9:55 am)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Sep 10, 2008 10:02 am) When we think about this, there's really nothing logical to it at all! How someone "feels" about it, or how much one of the cars "appeals" to someone is all subjective. It's near impossible to place only logic in the purchase of a car. Appliances perhaps, but not cars. Although I've met a few people in my lifetime that have diminished their view of a car as a mere appliance. To me, that's a tragedy. Anyway, I know what you are saying... we're just saying it a little differently. After all, there has to be some point to draw the line, right?  TM
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Replying to: tagman (Sep 10, 2008 9:55 am) You never second guess yourself that you may have paid for something you don't need, or something with diminishing return for your extra $$? If I always drive my car at 10/10th, or 9/10th, then the extra $5k for the 135 would probably be a bargain, but we all know most people do not drive their cars anywhere near the limit. It's not even a question of ability. Sometimes it's just a function of where you live, and work, and drive, and other family duties.
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Replying to: tagman (Sep 10, 2008 1:01 pm)
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Replying to: bodble2 (Sep 10, 2008 4:12 pm) In the end, it's all about relative passion for driving. Nothing is wrong or right except what is comfortable for you. It's nice to effortlessly do what some cars are a burden to accomplish. The 135i gives me that feeling of completeness even when driving for hyper-mileage! Regards, OW
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If I were shopping for a 1-series, there's no doubt I'd choose the 135i. However, I do have a problem with a couple of the comments previously posted... The 128i being lighter and better balanced would likely make the 128i the "better handling" car from a neutrality point of view (I haven't driven one yet so I'm only guessing). Also, for street and track driving, it can be more fun and challenging to drive a "momentum car" at 10/10ths than to drive a more powerful car. Also, the smaller brakes on the 128i will never be a problem on the street. Panic stop distances are basically unaffected by the size of the brakes, and the lighter weight of the 128i may actually give it a slight edge. Larger brakes have more surface area though, so on the track, they are more fade resistant. Yes, 0-60 in 4.8 seconds is quick - quick enough to make my heart flutter. Knowing that the 135i exists would make it impossible for me to not spend the extra money for it. On the other hand, 0-60 in 6 seconds is hardly anemic - supercar territory just a few years ago. I can totally understand why someone would choose the superior balance and save a little money by choosing a 128i - in my opinion, it's the purer sports car of the two.
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Replying to: circlew (Sep 10, 2008 5:08 pm) I just think the 128 would not likely "burden" to accomplish any driving task one would reasonable expect to encounter. I think the fact that the 135 is almost an overkill overshadows the credentials of the 128. One needs to remember that not too long ago, the 328 won a C & D sports sedan comparo, and the 128 arguably should out-perform the 328. Yes, I know, as in the case of money and sex, one can never have too much hp, but the 128 is probably as much car as, if not more than, most sane enthusiasts would need. (Of course, I'm not conceding that, budget permitting, I would not spring for a 135  )
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Replying to: fedlawman (Sep 10, 2008 5:18 pm) I couldn't agree more. Does the 1-series come with the abominable run-flat tires?
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Replying to: bodble2 (Sep 10, 2008 4:12 pm) Not really. I'd much rather have a feature I might have ended up not using very much, than to NOT having a feature I wished I had purchased! If I always drive my car at 10/10th, or 9/10th, then the extra $5k for the 135 would probably be a bargain, but we all know most people do not drive their cars anywhere near the limit. Whatever percentage you apply is fine... but in the end even if you drive at 50%... 50% of a 128i's performance is still less than 50% of the 135i's. C'mon, now... anyway you spin it, there's still a whole bunch more to the 135i to experience. Heck, even when I get on the freeway, I don't have to go one single mph over the speed limit in order to accelerate faster and feel the exhilierating feeling. The same holds true for many driving scenarios. I've discussed with others at length on another forum about the reality of driving within all the legal limits and still experiencing the enjoyment that can come from driving a car that has great performance attributes. TM |
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Replying to: bodble2 (Sep 10, 2008 4:17 pm) Cars are special machines... there are few machines that we can actually interact with, with so much excitement and passion. Tell the NASCAR folks that their cars are just machines.  TM
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