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Re: Having second thoughts about the 135i [circlew] by flightnurse
Sep 09, 2008 (9:14 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Sep 09, 2008 8:41 am)

What comes down to is this, if you can afford the extra $$ in the monthly payments, insurance difference, then don't worry about it and buy the car. Some of the others on here make for a good point in the fact that you might use that extra HP once in a while. When I was out looking at cars the 135 and 128 were on the list. After driving them and weighting the $ factor between the 2, _I_ could not justify the price difference for the 135i. So the 128i w/SP was on my short list. I wasn't looking for the ultimate car, but I figured the 128 is about 300-400 lbs lighter then a 3 series so the 128 would have the extra power. I looked at others cars, and I finally bought something else. It came down to price for me, As I was looking for a new car, an opening in a masters program I wanted to get into opened so I had to scale back my $ outlay. But once I'm done and settled into a new job, I'll be looking at the 128i again...
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Re: Having second thoughts about the 135i [circlew] by qbrozen
Sep 09, 2008 (12:03 pm)
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Replying to: circlew (Sep 09, 2008 8:41 am)

yeah, the BMW site is kinda nebulous on that point. The wording for both the 135 and 128 SP suspension is the same. Are the exactly the same components? I don't know.
 
The tires are slightly wider on the 135, but like I said earlier, that's easily and inexpensively fixed. (don't lots of folks choose to dump the runflats anyway?)
 
Brake "feel" is kinda tough to discuss. The 135 may feel better, but will it stop shorter? Oh ... but then again, if it does, that may be attributable to those wider tires.
 
Eh, in any case, we could discuss these minor differences till the cows come home. It all comes down to what its worth to the buyer. As michael said, some folks just won't settle for less. And I can understand that. Its only recently I've been setting my sights a bit lower in the name of practicality. Its the reason I bought a G35X over the S60R my emotions were telling me to buy.
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Re: Having second thoughts about the 135i [qbrozen] by circlew
Sep 09, 2008 (12:22 pm)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Sep 09, 2008 12:03 pm)

True, the differences are only there if you care. If you don't, no sweat! The 128 is a great car. I originally went to BMW because I was tired of the US excuse for a car. Garbage was not an option this time around. Te 330xi I have has been bashed as a fat pig of a car with a slusbox for sissies. It is faster than the 128 and the handling is flatter in the xi despite the claim there is no tuned suspension.
 
I am overjoyed in the level of performance this car brings and then I drove the 135 and was flabbergasted!
 
TM can answer the tuning suspension differences on the 135 vs. 128 if he knows!
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: Having second thoughts about the 135i [circlew] by tagman
Sep 09, 2008 (3:32 pm)
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Replying to: circlew (Sep 09, 2008 12:22 pm)

Probably not much difference in both suspensions with sport package. BMW refers to the 135i's suspension as "calibrated"... my guess is it's not a big deal.
 
The amazIng thing here is that the entire combination of suspension, brakes, steering, tires, and massive increase in horsepower and torque is what seems to transform the 135i.
 
I always think of why folks get the "S" variant in their Porsche.
 
I rememember my original Boxster. The car was lacking, and the following year an "S" became available to the delight of many.
 
DRIVE them to understand.
 
TM
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Venture by nyccarguy
Sep 09, 2008 (6:49 pm)
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What kind of E46 do you have?
#1649 of 1809
Re: Having second thoughts about the 135i [tagman] by circlew
Sep 10, 2008 (5:04 am)
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Replying to: tagman (Sep 09, 2008 3:32 pm)

I just passed by the local dealer and they had 6 1-series. 2 verts and 4 coupes.
 
Tempting....
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: Having second thoughts about the 135i [tagman] by qbrozen
Sep 10, 2008 (6:34 am)
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Replying to: tagman (Sep 09, 2008 3:32 pm)

I always think of why folks get the "S" variant in their Porsche.
 
i sometimes wonder that, too.
 
Well..... ok, maybe not so much when it comes to Porsche. I mean, its an expensive car already, so what's a little extra?
 
But I'm sure I would be VERY happy with a base Cayman.
 
BTW, just pulled into work 10 minutes ago and lo and behold, there is a new 128i sitting out there with a temporary tag. Its the dark metallic grey, black interior, and manual trans. I don't believe it had the sport pack (didn't want to get too close but it didn't appear to be sport seats).
 
One thing I did take note of was the brakes. Man, they DO look small!
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Re: Having second thoughts about the 135i [qbrozen] by tagman
Sep 10, 2008 (9:55 am)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Sep 10, 2008 6:34 am)

Rob,
I just want to make sure that you don't misunderstand my posts. I am not trying to scoff at the 128i in any way at all. I think it's a steal for the money as is the 135i. It would be a fantastic car to own and a joy to drive, without any doubt.
 
Putting all the objective specifications aside, my only point is that once someone drives both of them, they will definately feel a difference. If they do not find that they would like to own the 135i's added performance, exhileration, and kick-in-the-pants, than by all means they should buy the 128i.
 
For me, I generally like to get my cars fully loaded, and get the best version of a car that is available. That way, I'm never second guessing myself or feeling that I missed out on something. The 135i is the very best of the 1-Series, and that's just the way I prefer it. And, trust me, I have no regrets getting my 135i. I've bought a lot of cars in my days, and it's one of the best purchases I've ever made at any price.
 
Any buyer that looks at these cars, should get what works best for them. It's going to be their car, hopefully for many years.
 
I wish venture the best of luck if he is trying to decide on which one to get.
 
TM
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Re: Having second thoughts about the 135i [tagman] by qbrozen
Sep 10, 2008 (10:02 am)
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Replying to: tagman (Sep 10, 2008 9:55 am)

Oh, no worries. And don't get me wrong, either. I'm not saying I wouldn't like the added performance nor am I saying I won't "feel" the difference. I just take a bit more logical approach (or at least try to) and judge whether or not it is "worth" it.
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Re: Having second thoughts about the 135i [qbrozen] by tagman
Sep 10, 2008 (1:01 pm)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Sep 10, 2008 10:02 am)

I get what you mean, but don't you think when it comes down to it, "being worth it" depends upon how you "feel" about "it"?... "it" being the enhanced driving characteristics of the 135i.
 
When we think about this, there's really nothing logical to it at all! How someone "feels" about it, or how much one of the cars "appeals" to someone is all subjective.
 
It's near impossible to place only logic in the purchase of a car. Appliances perhaps, but not cars. Although I've met a few people in my lifetime that have diminished their view of a car as a mere appliance.
 
To me, that's a tragedy.
 
Anyway, I know what you are saying... we're just saying it a little differently. After all, there has to be some point to draw the line, right?
 
TM

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