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BMW 1 Series, Coupe, Convertible, Sedan
#1480 of 1843 Re: Nah!! [tagman]
Jun 15, 2008 (2:07 pm)
Co-existence is fine. I just don't like to see the 3 Series denigrated just because the 1 Series may be slightly more agile, faster and cheaper.The 335i in any guise is still a very satisfying drive. Same boring interior though, in both Series that I've been staring at seemingly for a lifetime, though it has "only" been 15 years. (Almost the same in the 545i, just a bit more wood, that the wife swears is plastic, and in so declaring, is a constant irritant to me).
It will be interesting to see C&D's 10 best cars solution to the BMW problem in their January 2009 issue: Both the 3 and the 1? Just the 1? Just the 3? I have a feeling they will choose both.
#1481 of 1843 Re: Nah!! [blueguydotcom]
Jun 15, 2008 (2:10 pm)
I guess you canceled your C&D subscription. They have yet to encounter a BMW car they haven't loved; pretty much why I extended my subscription out to 5 years!
#1482 of 1843 Re: The 1-Series needs no defense [hpowders]
Jun 15, 2008 (5:44 pm)
I felt the same way but after 2 test drives, I can loose the 3'er weight with pleasure...I just feel sorry for anyone that tags along in the rer seats. Since 99% on my own, tough it out!
Jun 15, 2008 (6:11 pm)
Personally the only 3 series coupe that I like (we're talking asthetics here) is the 335i with Sports Package. Configured the way I'd order it (granted I'm somewhat of a minimalist) with Sports Package, Heated Seats, SIRIUS, BMW Assist, Leatherette, 6-Speed Manual, & Crimson Red Paint has an MSRP of $45,070. A 135i Coupe built the same way costs $38,670 ($6,400 less). If you're going to argue the 3 series is better looking and has more interior room than the 1 series, then a 328i Coupe with the same options has an MSRP of $39,370 ($700 more than the 135i). The 300 hp/300 lb-ft of torque twin turbocharged engine along with the slight weight reduction are worth more to me and it's a screaming bargain compared to the 328i Coupe.
On the topic of convertibles. I don't like the look of the 3 series convertibles at all with the top up. The creases in the roof take away from the coupe's smooth roofline. I think the 1er with its fabric top is better looking.
Happy Father's Day Everyone!
#1484 of 1843 Re: The 1-Series needs no defense [circlew]
Jun 15, 2008 (7:36 pm)
I have driven 3 Series vehicles since 1993 and they have grown progressively heavier, but they still are quite fun to drive. It's usually just my wife and me, so lack of rear seat room doesn't concern me either. I do need a decent sized trunk though for frequent missions to the airport.
#1485 of 1843 Re: 1 vs. 3 [nyccarguy]
Jun 15, 2008 (7:38 pm)
Keep in mind that for the 135i, you will pay full MSRP. There is room, however to bargain on a 335i Coupe, probably a bit more so now, thanks to the popularity of the 135i Coupe stealing away some 335i sales.
#1486 of 1843 Re: The 1-Series needs no defense [blueguydotcom]
Jun 15, 2008 (9:26 pm)
"The majority in America also likes McDonald's..."
Oh God, hope not! Have you noticed people that eat at McDonald's look either poor, or stupid?
#1487 of 1843 Re: The 1-Series needs no defense [bodble2]
Jun 16, 2008 (7:27 am)
McDonalds has nothing to do with the BMW cars. Nor does the majority of American's behavior... which can be strange at times, especially from international perspectives
The 1er is in demand and has been well-received by the world's auto enthusiasts and critics... with the usual few exceptions, it is a major winner.
The 3-Series is practically legendary... so it gets all the respect it has earned... Even if it has grown more than some would like. And the 1-Series is a terrific sibling that should do very well... heck, people are waiting months to pay full price for one!
So, let's stay on track here and avoid what is absurdly irrelevant.
#1488 of 1843 Re: The 1-Series needs no defense [tagman]
Jun 16, 2008 (11:06 am)
What's irrelevant is the 3 series. The constant harping on it in a forum dedicated to the 1 series can only be termed tiresome. People spamming the 1 forum regarding the 3 are no different than someone clicking into a G35 forum and extolling the M35. Different cars with different markets in mind.
#1489 of 1843 Re: The 1-Series needs no defense [blueguydotcom]
Jun 16, 2008 (11:28 am)
Yes, forget the 3 in here. Let's talk about the tii....that's more interesting. When can we expect it to arrive in the U.S.?