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#1210 of 1809
Re: First Buyer [blueguydotcom] by roadburner
Mar 24, 2008 (12:05 pm)
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Replying to: blueguydotcom (Mar 24, 2008 11:25 am)

The 135 is not really expensive against its main competition:
  
335 - 40k starting
TT 3.2V6 - 40k starting
SLK - 44k
Cayman - 49k
STI - 35k
Evo - 32k

 
Of those only the 335i, the Cayman, and the EVO would interest me.
 
An e46 M3 would be about 3-4 years old and out of warranty.
 
There are more than a few CPO '04s and '05s around. And lack of a warranty has never been a deal breaker for me; that's why I have a full set of tools, a heated garage, and Mark Jon Calabrese on my speed dial...
 
A 330i ZHP is a great deal of fun but in comparison it's not nearly as fast.
 
I know; that's why I'd have to buy a M Coupe to keep it company.
 
What else has RWD, seats 4 and 300 hp, but weighs around 3400-3500 lbs?
 
Well, there's the E28 M5 with a track pipe and a Conforti Chip, an E36 M3 with the Conforti Euro MAF kit, a 993...
 
I'm not saying the 1er is a bad car, it just doesn't do it for me- particularly at that price point. If I decide to drop over $40K on a new BMW, I'm just going to suck it up and buy a M3 sedan.
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Re: First Buyer [roadburner] by blueguydotcom
Mar 24, 2008 (1:19 pm)
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Replying to: roadburner (Mar 24, 2008 12:05 pm)

Used cars is sort of an apples to oranges comparo, don't you think? Regardless, those are all fine cars.
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Re: First Buyer [blueguydotcom] by roadburner
Mar 24, 2008 (4:25 pm)
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Replying to: blueguydotcom (Mar 24, 2008 1:19 pm)

Used cars is sort of an apples to oranges comparo, don't you think?
 
For the majority of enthusiasts, yes. But there are more than a few who-like me-consider new or used to be just another option in the decision making process. Prior to my last purchase I considered six or seven used cars and a similar number of new cars. Of course, I'm one of those guys who still likes to wrench on his own car. I do realize that a lot of people don't have the time, facilities, or inclination to go the DIY route, and for those enthusiasts a new or CPO car is almost always the wisest choice.
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Re: I'm impressed [johnnytt] by nyccarguy
Mar 24, 2008 (5:15 pm)
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Replying to: johnnytt (Mar 24, 2008 8:17 am)

I wish you the best of luck with your new 1 series convertible. I don't know how much you'll be able to get "this guy to drop the price." Even with the stock market's whoas as of late, it is March and prime convertible buying season here in the Northeast. Everyone gets Spring Fever and wants to have their drop top in hand when the weather gets warm. Second, the 1 series (coupes & convertibles) were just released last week.
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blueguydotcom & roadburner by nyccarguy
Mar 24, 2008 (5:40 pm)
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As I've stated many times before, I'm planning on keeping my '01 Prelude as my daily driver for at least another 5 years. If those 5 yeasrs were up as of today, I'd head straight down to a BMW dealer (Got to find a new CA as the guy who sold us Dad's '07 X5, Mom's '08 328xi, & Wifey's X3 is no longer employed at the dealership) and order a 135i Coupe to my Specs.
 
If something in the more immediate future would happen to my beloved Prelude, I'd look at a 128i and try and find the perfect used '05 330i ZHP (Still under warranty, 6 speed stick, Black Interior, & Low $20K) or E46 M3 Coupe (6 Speed Stick, Sunroof, Black Interior, & any exterior color except for that Phoenix Yellow). I just feel like some of the asking prices on the CPO cars (and private party sales) are way too high.
 
Those E28 M5s are serious cars. There are 2 '88s advertised in ROUNDEL with over 200K miles for around $5,000.
 
EDIT: I did a CPO search for a 100 mile radius (I live in the NYC suburbs) for a 3 series sedan with manual transmission. Of the 50 cars it came up with, 1 was an '05 with ZHP. It has 28K miles (ZHP, Metallic Paint, & Xenon) and they're asking 29,900 for it. What do you do, walk in there and offer them 23K for the car?
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Re: I'm impressed [nyccarguy] by johnnytt
Mar 25, 2008 (7:38 am)
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Replying to: nyccarguy (Mar 24, 2008 5:15 pm)

Thanks for the luck!
 
I went again last night to drive them again with my girl. Well, she loved the way it drove, and is a sucker for convertibles.... so my hopes of her giving me a reason to not get it were completely shattered. She said "Get it!"
 
I just got a loan approval for 4.99% for 72 months ( I plan on paying off early,2-3yrs, just want lower payments ). So now I'm going to see if BMW will beat it.
 
I'm still stuck on which to get. They don't have a manual on the lot for me to drive, and I don't like the 128i with an automatic.... but I can feel that the engine is pretty quick.
 
At least I got 2 parts of the process complete!!
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Re: blueguydotcom & roadburner [nyccarguy] by JingleJill
Mar 25, 2008 (11:14 am)
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Replying to: nyccarguy (Mar 24, 2008 5:40 pm)

Whoa mama... That is rather pricey... It's probably worth a little more than $23k but definitely not $30k...
 
I bought a 2005 330ci w/ZHP, 6-spd, cold weather package, xenon, alcantara, HK, etc... with 5k miles for under $30k two years ago.
 
I then bought a 2004 330i (same specs as the 2005 just with 4 doors and 45k miles) a year ago for $24k
 
I like the 1 series, but agree with a lot of people that they are too pricey. I assume the dealers are only taking MSRP?
 
Stacy
#1217 of 1809
Re: blueguydotcom & roadburner [JingleJill] by roadburner
Mar 25, 2008 (11:41 am)
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Replying to: JingleJill (Mar 25, 2008 11:14 am)

I assume the dealers are only taking MSRP?
 
That's what I've heard.
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Re: blueguydotcom & roadburner [JingleJill] by nyccarguy
Mar 25, 2008 (6:00 pm)
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Replying to: JingleJill (Mar 25, 2008 11:14 am)

Not to mention I'm very hesitant to buy a used car in the first place. Unlike my friends roadburner and fedlawman, I haven't got the time (although I would love to learn one of these days) to work on cars.
 
I feel like a CPO car might be an "off lease creampuff" that still only had its oil changed every 15K miles as per BMWs free maintenance.
 
I also feel like certain dealers do the bare minimum to CPO a car other than make it look nice this way they maximize profit. Let's say a week later (or a month or any given length of time) your window regulators fail or your front control arms need replacing. Great, you've got your CPO warranty that only costs you $50 (deductible), but the dealer gets paid for the parts and labor from BMW instead of it coming from its own pocket during the CPO process.
 
Another thing I've heard is the "cost" of making a BMW a CPO BMW. BMW is VERY strict with scratches when it comes to lease returns. BMWFS charges the customer for scratched wheels, scratches...
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Re: blueguydotcom & roadburner [nyccarguy] by blueguydotcom
Mar 25, 2008 (7:54 pm)
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Replying to: nyccarguy (Mar 25, 2008 6:00 pm)

Another thing I've heard is the "cost" of making a BMW a CPO BMW. BMW is VERY strict with scratches when it comes to lease returns. BMWFS charges the customer for scratched wheels, scratches...
 
Not true at all. They're very lenient in my experience.
 
As for the 15k oil change, that's been around since 98 and it's not turned into a big deal for e46s. Every non-M owner I know with an e46/9x follows the computer for oil changes.

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