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Replying to: ateixeira (Mar 24, 2008 8:41 am) The lack of a dipstick and LSD aside, the 135i is just too expensive. To get one equipped the way I want it I'm looking at $40K. As the 1 Series isn't all that much lighter than an E90 or E92, I'd probably just pick up a CPO 2007 335i coupe for similar money. A Competition Package E46 M3 would also be in the same price range. Or perhaps a twofer- a CPO 330i ZHP for "practical" family transport AND an E36 M Coupe for track days and back road assaults. Don't get me wrong, the 1er is by all reports a terrific car, but it just doesn't give me that "gotta have it" feeling- and yes, I have seen one in person.
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Replying to: roadburner (Mar 24, 2008 10:53 am) 335 - 40k starting TT 3.2V6 - 40k starting SLK - 44k Cayman - 49k STI - 35k Evo - 32k An e46 M3 would be about 3-4 years old and out of warranty. A 330i ZHP is a great deal of fun but in comparison it's not nearly as fast. What else has RWD, seats 4 and 300 hp, but weighs around 3400-3500 lbs?
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Replying to: blueguydotcom (Mar 24, 2008 11:25 am) 335 - 40k starting TT 3.2V6 - 40k starting SLK - 44k Cayman - 49k STI - 35k Evo - 32k Of those only the 335i, the Cayman, and the EVO would interest me. An e46 M3 would be about 3-4 years old and out of warranty. There are more than a few CPO '04s and '05s around. And lack of a warranty has never been a deal breaker for me; that's why I have a full set of tools, a heated garage, and Mark Jon Calabrese on my speed dial... A 330i ZHP is a great deal of fun but in comparison it's not nearly as fast. I know; that's why I'd have to buy a M Coupe to keep it company. What else has RWD, seats 4 and 300 hp, but weighs around 3400-3500 lbs? Well, there's the E28 M5 with a track pipe and a Conforti Chip, an E36 M3 with the Conforti Euro MAF kit, a 993... I'm not saying the 1er is a bad car, it just doesn't do it for me- particularly at that price point. If I decide to drop over $40K on a new BMW, I'm just going to suck it up and buy a M3 sedan.
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Replying to: roadburner (Mar 24, 2008 12:05 pm)
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Replying to: blueguydotcom (Mar 24, 2008 1:19 pm) For the majority of enthusiasts, yes. But there are more than a few who-like me-consider new or used to be just another option in the decision making process. Prior to my last purchase I considered six or seven used cars and a similar number of new cars. Of course, I'm one of those guys who still likes to wrench on his own car. I do realize that a lot of people don't have the time, facilities, or inclination to go the DIY route, and for those enthusiasts a new or CPO car is almost always the wisest choice. |
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Replying to: johnnytt (Mar 24, 2008 8:17 am)
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As I've stated many times before, I'm planning on keeping my '01 Prelude as my daily driver for at least another 5 years. If those 5 yeasrs were up as of today, I'd head straight down to a BMW dealer (Got to find a new CA as the guy who sold us Dad's '07 X5, Mom's '08 328xi, & Wifey's X3 is no longer employed at the dealership) and order a 135i Coupe to my Specs. If something in the more immediate future would happen to my beloved Prelude, I'd look at a 128i and try and find the perfect used '05 330i ZHP (Still under warranty, 6 speed stick, Black Interior, & Low $20K) or E46 M3 Coupe (6 Speed Stick, Sunroof, Black Interior, & any exterior color except for that Phoenix Yellow). I just feel like some of the asking prices on the CPO cars (and private party sales) are way too high. Those E28 M5s are serious cars. There are 2 '88s advertised in ROUNDEL with over 200K miles for around $5,000. EDIT: I did a CPO search for a 100 mile radius (I live in the NYC suburbs) for a 3 series sedan with manual transmission. Of the 50 cars it came up with, 1 was an '05 with ZHP. It has 28K miles (ZHP, Metallic Paint, & Xenon) and they're asking 29,900 for it. What do you do, walk in there and offer them 23K for the car?
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Replying to: nyccarguy (Mar 24, 2008 5:15 pm) I went again last night to drive them again with my girl. Well, she loved the way it drove, and is a sucker for convertibles.... so my hopes of her giving me a reason to not get it were completely shattered. She said "Get it!" I just got a loan approval for 4.99% for 72 months ( I plan on paying off early,2-3yrs, just want lower payments ). So now I'm going to see if BMW will beat it. I'm still stuck on which to get. They don't have a manual on the lot for me to drive, and I don't like the 128i with an automatic.... but I can feel that the engine is pretty quick. At least I got 2 parts of the process complete!! |
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Replying to: nyccarguy (Mar 24, 2008 5:40 pm) I bought a 2005 330ci w/ZHP, 6-spd, cold weather package, xenon, alcantara, HK, etc... with 5k miles for under $30k two years ago. I then bought a 2004 330i (same specs as the 2005 just with 4 doors and 45k miles) a year ago for $24k I like the 1 series, but agree with a lot of people that they are too pricey. I assume the dealers are only taking MSRP? Stacy
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