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Replying to: nyccarguy (Feb 12, 2008 8:11 pm) Hey, you REALLY need to rearrange your priorities...  I think they are going to have a Driving School almost every day, as opposed to the usual two. I'm hoping to instruct for two to four days; you can't get too much of the Glen!
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Replying to: roadburner (Feb 18, 2008 8:58 am) |
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Replying to: nyccarguy (Feb 17, 2008 5:52 pm) Would you know of any site or blog (preferably without a subscription fee) where the actual tech specs of the suspension changes are discussed (i.e. if BMW uses stiffer springs on a 1 series sport pakg vs a 3 series pkg, or, changes in sport pkgs specs from an E46 to E90)? I'm not much interested in making my own suspension mods at this point, just want to learn more about how a sport pkg has changed (or not) over the years. Any info or links would be appreciated.
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Replying to: cdnpinhead (Feb 17, 2008 4:53 pm) |
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Replying to: driveinalong (Feb 19, 2008 6:45 am) You can probably find something in here. |
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Replying to: flightnurse (Jan 30, 2008 9:02 am) Regards, OW |
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I surveyed over 650 consumers that had signed up for BMW 1 Series information on my blogs over the past 12 month to ask them a few questions prior to the launch of the BMW 1 Series this month. The results have been compiled in a 29 page report, and here are some of the highlights: 1. Over 40% of the consumers who were once interested in the 128i or 135i are now off the market and considering other vehicles. 2. Since BMW priced the 1 Series so close to the 3 Series, it has forced consumers to hold off pre-orders until they can see and drive the car. Many may end up buying a 3-Series model instead of a 1-Series car. 3. The pricing strategy has angered many initial BMW 1-Series customers and consumers which consider the car overpriced. Pricing has driven many away from buying. 4. The 3-Series may actually be a “down sell” for BMW dealers as consumers find better value and lower lease payments on a comparable 3-Series car. BMW 3 Series sales may actually get a bump from the 1 Series launch. 5. The clear consumer favorite is the BMW 135i which may make it harder for dealers to sell the 128i models with internal competition from the 3 Series models and outside competing models. Consumer indications show the 135i Coupe to be a 3:1 favorite over the 128i Coupe. 6. Competition from Audi A3 and A4 as well as the Infiniti G37 will give price sensitive shoppers a compelling purchasing alternative to what is perceived as an overpriced 1 Series initial pricing model. Audi was the #1 consumer choice after the BMW 1 Series. The full report is free on my website: Pasch Consulting Group 1 Series Survey
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Replying to: dukenj (Mar 07, 2008 8:14 pm) I was one of the people who wanted to buy one, but went off and bought something else... |
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The 128i convertible starts at 34k. That's 10k less than the 328i convertible. BMW doesn't not have a low-priced 4 seat convertible on the market any longer so this car fills a major niche - especially with its only competition coming from the Eos and equally expensive Cooper convertible. the 128 will become THE car for the exact market that made the e46 325 cic a success. As for the 128/135, we'll see. I expect discounting will eventually occur. BMW may have priced them too high but there's so little in that market place that can compare. The A3 - we own one - isn't comparable in any way to a BMW and certainly nothing like a rwd coupe. Not at all. And the A4 - the next gen launches soon - is markedly bigger than the current generation so it is moving up in size. The G37 coupe starts at 35k, a good 6k more than the 128 and about the same as the 135. It may be competition in some circles but lacking a convertible model it'll be overlooked by what I bet will constitute 50% of the 1 series sales. Faced with a 128 convertible at 34k or a G37 at 35k it's not tough to imagine the 1 swaying buyers. |
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Here is what soured a lot of buyers for the 1-series (IMHO..lol) 1) Only coupe and vert configuration.. 2) Cost..(not MSRP) Now that BMW has decided to only sell 10K here the first year, dealers have no incentive to cut price, and BMWFS has no incentive to offer reasonable lease deals.. It is a boutique car, not meant as an entry-level BMW, which is what most of us were hoping for.. The convertibles will still do well, as 3-series verts aren't discounted much anyway, and they represent a real savings. The 135i will do well, because it is reasonably expected to be a better performer than the 335i (you'd think so.. remains to be seen). The 128i coupe? A few enthusiasts might want a stripped one with a stick, but that is likely to be a very, very small number... Even though this is the cheapest of the models, I'll guess it won't sell much.. regards, kyfdx (often wrong, but never unsure) |
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