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#214 of 704 Re: Sportage vs '06 Forester? [backy]
Apr 24, 2005 (8:07 am)
The 2006 Forester is completely updated for this year offering 173hp in the base model, and various improvements on the brakes, transmission, etc.
Not sure about the airbags though- it has head and torso side-airbags and scored "GOOD" on the side impact tests. Not bad even without curtains.
Price-wise it will be intersting to see how close the base-model '06 Forester comes to the AWD V6 Sportage. If it came down to it, I'd rather purchase a Subaru over a Kia.
#215 of 704 Outside Temp. Gage
Apr 25, 2005 (1:07 pm)
Does the 05 Sportage have an outside temp. gage somewhere? Included in with the radio functions? Dealer could not find one. Was an EX model with the Luxury Pkg.
#216 of 704 Re: Canadian Recall [janetedit]
May 01, 2005 (11:51 am)
Well, it's finally out in Canada. Recall Number TC2005102
See Transport Canada at http://www.tc.gc.ca/roadsafety/recalls/
"On certain vehicles, while cornering under conditions where Electronic Stability Program (ESP) activation may not be needed, a sensitive ESP may cause the engine to reduce power and the brake at one of the wheels to be applied without brake pedal application by the driver. This may cause the vehicle to slow and may affect the path that the vehicle is traveling. Brake application caused by inadvertent ESP activation may result in a crash. Correction: Dealers will reprogram the ESP Hydraulic Electronic Control Unit (HECU)."
So it's been out for at least a month in the rest of the world; why so long for Canada? Hopefully nobody has been hurt. I've fired off an e-mail to Kia Canada to see what they say about my Sportage. Also, my dealership promised to keep me informed. We'll see how long it takes for them to get back to me.
Still floors me that I've known about the Canadian recall for ages, and Kia Canada refused to say anything. We threatened to go to the media if nothing were done by May 15th. Doubt that had anything to do with the timing, but just glad it's out there before someone does get hurt.
Still love my car. Took it to Niagara Falls for a mum's weekend away with my best friend, and it drove like a charm (ESP off of course), and it handled the torrential rain/snow like a dream. Let's hope this is the last problem (fingers crossed).
#217 of 704 Re: Canadian Recall [janetedit]
May 01, 2005 (9:01 pm)
Thanks for breaking the News about the Canadian recall for the ESP finally coming out. (a full month after the US recall notice). Now we need to see how long it takes for the dealers to be ready to fix it.
(Note, my salesman claimed the condition had already been fixed before i took possession in March. But he had no proof or papers to back his claim....I think i will insist on documentation for this kind of a thing. If it turns out the fix was not yet done I will have to file a complaint against the salesman. To mislead someone on a safety recall is a serious issue IMO)
Have any of you US Sportage owners had the recall condition repaired yet ?
I would like to hear any feedback on how it went, simple or a headache.
Still loving my sportage, It handles the endless rains of spring without any problems and on a long drive the reclining back seat is a great place for the passenger to nap.
#218 of 704 Re: Canadian Recall [harold_toronto]
May 01, 2005 (9:47 pm)
Had my sportage recall work done 2 weeks ago. It was very easy and took around 30-45 minutes total. The service department was good about getting me in and out with the least amount of inconvenience. The only thing is, I am not sure how you can tell if the new software was actually installed correctly and if the system is now working properly. Most computers have a way of checking what version of a program has been installed and is currently running on the system. Does anyone know of a way to verify that the system has been updated correctly?
#219 of 704 Trust your dealer, man...
May 02, 2005 (6:40 pm)
if your Sporty's driving fine, just trust them to have done the job right. There's probably no way for you to check to be sure, anyway.
#220 of 704 Re: Sportage vs '06 Forester? [ericf1]
May 03, 2005 (10:01 pm)
I am in the same boat you are, or on the same fence, I should say. I am cross shopping the Hyundai/Kia "twins" vs. Subaru Forester, already own a 98 Forester, looking for a replacement. I test drove the Hyundai and was impressed with the build quality and performance. The Kia interior is much better designed than the Tucson. Content wise the "twins" got just about everyone beat, Subaru just can't come close. Value proposition based on price/content alone you just can't beat a Hyundai/Kia. Long term reliability is a contentious issue right now, the "twins" have make great strides in initial quality, but since they have been updating their line up so rapidly in a short amount of time there are no hard long term data to compare against Subaru. I trust Subaru whole heartly, I know they will back me up if dealers give me a hard time (personal experience). I can't say the same with Hyundai due to lack of experience.
The 06 Forester does look interesting, and that moon roof! (where is that drool emotioncon??) That is why I am putting off my purchasing decision until it hits showrooms in June and I can test drive one. That's about the only thing that's keep me from biting the bullet and buying one of the 'twins'
The new H-4 with VVT is the golden apple, although I still wish they would put a 5 speed auto in there, same goes for the 'twins'. 4 speed autos are so yesterday, but I must say any 5 speed must be geared correctly or it wouldnt' be any better than a 4, maybe better fuel economy.
I love Subarus and will always have one in my stable but the 'twins' are really ramping up their game. And with Subaru moving their product lines upmarket it leaves them with out a true contender for this particular price point, too bad really, since Subaru will loose some potential buyers. The 06 Forester will probably not see any significant price increase over the 05s but its the 07 model year that will determine where the Forester is headed price point wise since it will be a complete redesign fully integrating the new corporate front facia design.
#221 of 704 Re: Sportage vs '06 Forester? [maverick1017]
May 04, 2005 (7:23 am)
If you are going to wait for the '06 Forester then you might have a Sportage with more power available. Rumors in the press that Hyundai/Kia will use their new engines in the Tucson and Sportage. Those include a 162 hp 2.4L I4 and the new 3.3L V6 from the Sonata. What a great package that would be, the 3.3L in the Tucson and Sportage. Then you wouldn't hear the auto press say they are "underpowered"!
#222 of 704 '05 Sportage M5 + AWD + 4 Cylinder
May 04, 2005 (8:48 am)
Hi all, who has driven one of these? Advice appreciated on pros & cons of a manual over the automatic in this family.. I have always preferred maual because a few years out its cheaper to redo the clutch than to buy a new automatic transmission..
#223 of 704 Re: '05 Sportage M5 + AWD + 4 Cylinder [smartypantz]
May 04, 2005 (8:59 am)
OTOH, the automatic is warranted for 10 years/100k miles while the wear components (like clutch pressure plate) of the manual are warranted for only one year/12k miles.