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Kia Sportage, SUV
#209 of 704 Re: 2005 Sportage or 2006?? [petec1]
Apr 23, 2005 (4:46 am)
I don't understand auto "critics". My wife has a new Sportage (EX 4WD, V-6). I see nothing underpowered about this vehicle. Where are these people conducting their tests, Indy? I remarked last night that the Sportage quickly accelerates and gets way beyond the speed limit if you don't pay attention. I am here to say that even with four adults on board, this thing moves out.
The Sportage is also has a very quiet interior. The seats take some adjusting to find the correct position but the driver's adjusts 8 ways so there just has to be a comfortable place for you.
Kia will make some tweaks over the next few years but the Sportage is going to be a huge winner if:
1. It is durable
2. When crash tested by IIHS it has high scores
3. Consumer Reports scores it high.
#210 of 704 Sportage vs '06 Forester?
Apr 23, 2005 (6:44 am)
How does the Sportage go up against the 2006 Forester (new model)? They are about the same price, w/equivalent features.
I acutally like the Forester because it gets better gas milage and is not as big as a standard SUV.
#211 of 704 Re: Sportage vs '06 Forester? [ericf1]
Apr 23, 2005 (8:25 pm)
For one thing, the Sportage has a lot more rear-seat room and cargo space. Also, I don't think ESC and side curtains are standard on the Forester--or even available? The Forester has the benefit of Subaru's long experience with AWD and a very good reliability history--the Sportage is unproven there.
#212 of 704 Re: Sportage vs '06 Forester? [backy]
Apr 24, 2005 (5:03 am)
Our son and daughter-in-law had a new 1999 Forrester that was an absolute lemon. It soured all of us on Subaru. I realize that lemons can happen in any brand name but in this family the Japanese cars have had more problems than any others.
The Sportage is fine through almost 500 miles. When it has 10,000 the report card might change.
#213 of 704 Canadian Recall
Apr 24, 2005 (7:05 am)
Well, I've been on the phone and e-mailed Kia Canada again about the recall. To their credit, they do get back to me within 24-48 hours, so I'm not left wondering if they'll respond or not.
Trouble is, they keep saying the same thing:
"We cannot confirm if a recall will be applied to your vehicle until a recall has been officially released within Canada. Recalls are vehicle specific. If a recall is released on your 2005 Kia Sportage, you will receive written notification via mail."
So I told the person that Transport Canada told me the Consumer Affairs department in any car manufacturer is always the last to hear, so no wonder she hasn't heard anything. Earlier this month I had to direct her to the US recall information on the NHTSA site, and forwarded her an e-mail from Transport Canada indicating that Kia Canada had been in touch with THEM, saying that yes, there was a Canadian recall.
She just said she had not received any information on that.
Yeah, no kidding.
Why do they have to wait until something serious happens? I don't understand why it takes so long to get the info out there, when the fix is the same fix provided to the already-public recalls in Germany, England and the States? As far as I understand it, they simply take 90 minutes and download the software. Not rocket science.
I still don't know if all the reprogramming they did on my Sportage in Feb (see earlier posts) was for this problem or not. They then just replaced the computer. Am I driving a time bomb here?
I got rid of my '95 Voyager because it was starting to become unreliable with repairs. Now I'm back in the same boat?
Whew! Venting done!
#214 of 704 Re: Sportage vs '06 Forester? [backy]
Apr 24, 2005 (7:07 am)
The 2006 Forester is completely updated for this year offering 173hp in the base model, and various improvements on the brakes, transmission, etc.
Not sure about the airbags though- it has head and torso side-airbags and scored "GOOD" on the side impact tests. Not bad even without curtains.
Price-wise it will be intersting to see how close the base-model '06 Forester comes to the AWD V6 Sportage. If it came down to it, I'd rather purchase a Subaru over a Kia.
#215 of 704 Outside Temp. Gage
Apr 25, 2005 (12:07 pm)
Does the 05 Sportage have an outside temp. gage somewhere? Included in with the radio functions? Dealer could not find one. Was an EX model with the Luxury Pkg.
#216 of 704 Re: Canadian Recall [janetedit]
May 01, 2005 (10:51 am)
Well, it's finally out in Canada. Recall Number TC2005102
See Transport Canada at http://www.tc.gc.ca/roadsafety/recalls/
"On certain vehicles, while cornering under conditions where Electronic Stability Program (ESP) activation may not be needed, a sensitive ESP may cause the engine to reduce power and the brake at one of the wheels to be applied without brake pedal application by the driver. This may cause the vehicle to slow and may affect the path that the vehicle is traveling. Brake application caused by inadvertent ESP activation may result in a crash. Correction: Dealers will reprogram the ESP Hydraulic Electronic Control Unit (HECU)."
So it's been out for at least a month in the rest of the world; why so long for Canada? Hopefully nobody has been hurt. I've fired off an e-mail to Kia Canada to see what they say about my Sportage. Also, my dealership promised to keep me informed. We'll see how long it takes for them to get back to me.
Still floors me that I've known about the Canadian recall for ages, and Kia Canada refused to say anything. We threatened to go to the media if nothing were done by May 15th. Doubt that had anything to do with the timing, but just glad it's out there before someone does get hurt.
Still love my car. Took it to Niagara Falls for a mum's weekend away with my best friend, and it drove like a charm (ESP off of course), and it handled the torrential rain/snow like a dream. Let's hope this is the last problem (fingers crossed).
#217 of 704 Re: Canadian Recall [janetedit]
May 01, 2005 (8:01 pm)
Thanks for breaking the News about the Canadian recall for the ESP finally coming out. (a full month after the US recall notice). Now we need to see how long it takes for the dealers to be ready to fix it.
(Note, my salesman claimed the condition had already been fixed before i took possession in March. But he had no proof or papers to back his claim....I think i will insist on documentation for this kind of a thing. If it turns out the fix was not yet done I will have to file a complaint against the salesman. To mislead someone on a safety recall is a serious issue IMO)
Have any of you US Sportage owners had the recall condition repaired yet ?
I would like to hear any feedback on how it went, simple or a headache.
Still loving my sportage, It handles the endless rains of spring without any problems and on a long drive the reclining back seat is a great place for the passenger to nap.
#218 of 704 Re: Canadian Recall [harold_toronto]
May 01, 2005 (8:47 pm)
Had my sportage recall work done 2 weeks ago. It was very easy and took around 30-45 minutes total. The service department was good about getting me in and out with the least amount of inconvenience. The only thing is, I am not sure how you can tell if the new software was actually installed correctly and if the system is now working properly. Most computers have a way of checking what version of a program has been installed and is currently running on the system. Does anyone know of a way to verify that the system has been updated correctly?