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#33 of 1721 berry22192 by nv32 Jan 25, 2004 (3:23 pm)
I, for one don't know of any tool like that, and it sure would be useful. Edmunds.com could do it I bet.   As far as navigation systems specifically, I think that virtually every maker has at least one model that has navigation as an option.   Better to ask, I think, which is the better navigation system[s]. This seems to be the consensus from what I and JP Powers have picked up: Alpine, Xanavi and Denso are evidently the best brands. Alpine is used by Acura and probably Honda, and maybe some others. Xanavi, so far as I know, is used only in Nissan and Infinity. Denso is used in Lexus and probably Toyota, and maybe others.   Some of the features that you might want to look for, they say, are: voice (will it give verbal directions, and can you give it voice commands?), the so-called bird's eye view together with (but only one at a time) the regular flat map view, touch-screen rather than joystick, and number of points of interest included in the system (which seem to range up to about 10 million for the best systems).   Another thing is whether Navitech, who makes the actual maps for all systems I've heard, has finally mapped the smaller cities and towns in the U.S., not to mention Canada.   There are updated DVDs that you can buy, about once a year I think, which reflect the additional mapping done if you're not satisfied with the DVD that comes with the car.   Hope this helps.
#34 of 1721 Which cars offers which NAV system..... by sledsfo Jan 26, 2004 (8:56 pm)
I think you might find the answers to your questions at the following links:   -which cars offers which NAV systems:   http://www.autonav2000.com/Compare/OEM-sys-vendorlist.pdf   -what features come with which NAV systems:    http://www.autonav2000.com/Compare/Compare2.htm   Good luck!
#35 of 1721 Cars with Nav List by s852 Jan 27, 2004 (6:47 am)
It is an incomplete list. Right away, I noticed it didn't even include the Honda Accord, so I wonder which other cars are also missing? Didn't realize the Infiniti I35 had a CD-based system.
#36 of 1721 Honda Accord NAV by sledsfo Jan 28, 2004 (12:59 pm)
I think the chart isn't updated but its the best one I've found on the net so far. Let me know you find a better one.   I've seen and tested the 2004 Accord NAV. Its on par with the 2004 MDX NAV and should be considering its Honda top of the line sedan. Its got the same size screen, voice activation, 12 million POI, etc. Its improved from the 2003 Accord NAV. As to why Honda didn't put the same system on the their top of the line SUV, beats me except they make more money by including an older Alpine gps and old mapping/POI database.
#37 of 1721 New cars offering NAV Systems by swingerjay Feb 08, 2004 (1:40 pm)
I have just compiled this. If you or others have later info please post. I used Feb 2004 ConsumerGuide Car & Truck Test; Buying Guide 2004. I do not claim to cover trucks. I may have missed some special vehicles.   Acura TL Buick Rendezvous Cadillac CTS Chrysler 300M Chrysler Town & Country Ford Expedition Honda Accord Honda Odyssey Honda Pilot Infiniti (All) Lexus (All) Lincoln LS Lincoln Navigator Mazda 3 Mercedes Benz (All exc SLK-Class) Mini Cooper Nissan 350Z Nissan Maxima Nissan Murano Nissan Pathfinder Armada Nissan Quest Pontiac Vibe Porsche (All) Toyota 4Runner Toyota Avalon Toyota Camry Toyota Highlander Toyota Land Cruiser Toyota Matrix Toyota Prius Toyota Sienna Toyota Solara Volkswagen Phaeton Volkswager Touareg Volvo S60 Volvo S80 Volvo V70/XC70 Volvo XC90 -end-
#38 of 1721 Navigation Systems..Today's "Hula Hoop" by deminin Feb 08, 2004 (1:44 pm)
I am against putting these in cars..at least in their current configurations. I think they have the potential to be far more dangerous to other drivers than cell phones. Can you imagine driving down the interstate at 75MPH while the clown next to you is playing with his nav system and taking his eyes off the road? Or, how about the wizard who runs a red light while he is fiddling with his display?? If manufacturers are going to make these things, they need to incorporate a heads up display, or put the LCD right in the drivers line of sight..not in the middle of the dashboard. Presently, auto makers are pushing these things because they are making a ridiculous profit on them. Analyze just what your $2000 is really buying. First, there is a $50 microprocessor, a $30 DVD or CD/rom, a small $85 LCD screen,, and a $150 GPS. For a real cost of 3 to 4 hundred dollars, they can make 400% profit...a wildly good deal for them! If I am going on a trip, I can map out my route in advance with my $10 Rand and McNalley computer program, and toss my $5 R and M atlas in the car if I want to take a side trip. If I am going someplace in a strange city, I can map that out in advance using Yahoo or Mapquest. I can see a few specific uses for these systems..the real estate saleslady, for example, but for the vast majority of people, they are just another toy...one that may someday put them in a serious accident.
#39 of 1721 List by s852 Feb 08, 2004 (5:31 pm)
You're missing many cars. For starters, you don't list the Acura TSX or any BMWs.
#40 of 1721 Yes, Sorry, I did skip a lot by swingerjay Feb 08, 2004 (5:59 pm)
I thought when I started I would capture names of all of them, but I skipped a bunch as I went along and forgot about that.
#41 of 1721 Built-in NAV behavior in new cars by swingerjay Feb 08, 2004 (6:04 pm)
If you drive a 2004 car with a navigation system built-in by the manufacturer, would you please answer until we have the models accounted for which I will list after the question. I am not trying to find this for after-market systems   Q: Can you force your NAV system to follow you without a)prompting, b) guiding, or c) establishing any destinations? Further explanation: this would just be showing the map, just showing where the car is located on the map and allowing you to glance at it to see current location and direction.   Acura TL Cadillac CTS Honda Accord Honda Odyssey Infiniti G35 Lexus ES330 Toyota Avalon Toyota Camry
#42 of 1721 Hula hoop? by scottdude Feb 23, 2004 (6:41 pm)
Deminin, I agree with your cost breakdown but I don't think Navi systems will be the next hula hoop. I actually think they'll be the next air conditioning or power windows or cruise control, or in other words, a feature that 10 years from now will probably be standard on every car.   Once I tried one I was hooked and came close to buying an Accord just for this feature, but then luckily I stumbled upon these messages that talked about less expensive Navi options, so now that's the direction I'm heading in.   I think that anyone who ever grew up watching Batman, Knight Rider or James Bond movies would go ga-ga over Navi. Talk about the ultimate grown up toy! Like any toy, Navi is fun and cool for the kid in us, but practical for the grown-up who hates asking for directions or thumbing through a road map book. I think it will be that way for at least a few more years until the next gizmo comes a long (anti-gravity cars I hope).   Now I have a question for the board: does anyone know if another company makes something like Honda's voice activation Navi? The idea of just speaking "find me a Chinese restaurant" and having the system come up with the info is just too cool for words.

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