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Re: oh boy [steve_] by ateixeira
Jun 23, 2009 (12:27 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jun 23, 2009 11:07 am)

other than via voice activation
 
I bet that becomes a hot seller pretty soon.
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Re: oh boy [steve_] by lilengineerboy
Jun 24, 2009 (2:57 pm)
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"New Jersey was one of the first states to outlaw handheld mobile phone use while driving, and now a state legislator wants to ban using a navigation system while a vehicle is in motion. According to the Daily Record, Democratic Assemblyman Harvey Smith of Jersey City has introduced a bill that would make it a violation for a driver to enter a destination into a navigation system while a car is in motion, other than via voice activation. The fine would be $100 for each infraction."
 
Have fun enforcing that one. So are they going to see you select a POI? Does that count? Or changing the zoom level? Or selecting an iPod track using a GPS with iPod support (or any MP3 for that matter)?
 
So its a poorly written un-enforceable law that isn't going anywhere. They would me much better off passing a law on the units themselves that lock out non-voice destination entry while driving, like Toyota, BMW, Ford, Nissan...
 
Telematics: In 2002, voluntary safety guidelines to enhance driver focus when using telematics were developed by the Alliance, the Intelligent Transportation Society of America, the Society of Automotive Engineers, the Consumer Electronics Association, AAA, the National Safety Council, AIAM and the Truck Manufacturers Association.
 
Auto Alliance
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Re: oh boy [lilengineerboy] by ateixeira
Jun 25, 2009 (9:27 am)
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Even in those cases people figure out how to over-ride them.
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operator .... by steve_ HOST
Jun 25, 2009 (7:54 pm)
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AT&T Navigator Becomes First Turn-by-Turn Nav App for the iPhone (Edmunds Daily)
 

 
Gee, one device will enable you to get busted for inputting a POI, texting and talking on the cell.
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Re: oh boy [lilengineerboy] by gagrice
Jun 26, 2009 (5:30 am)
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Jun 24, 2009 2:57 pm)

They would me much better off passing a law on the units themselves that lock out non-voice destination entry while driving, like Toyota, BMW, Ford, Nissan...
 
I can override my Toyota Sequoia NAV so my wife can input addresses while moving. I hate that lockout feature. If NJ is no better at enforcing the NAV law than CA the Cell phone law, it is just more wasted paper.
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Re: oh boy [gagrice] by fezo
Jun 26, 2009 (7:07 am)
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It is just wasted paper. We have enough non-compliance on our cell phone law. Add to this one the fact that it's a much dumber idea since almost anything you'd be hitting a GPS for would take your eyes even more off the road done any other way. I mean would you rather I touched the screen of my GPS or hauled out a map?
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Re: oh boy [fezo] by nortsr1
Jun 26, 2009 (8:13 am)
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Replying to: fezo (Jun 26, 2009 7:07 am)

You should actually pull over to get and look at the map and same goes for the touch screen method....but.... I know, we don't do what we should really do....DO WE?????
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Re: oh boy [nortsr1] by fezo
Jun 26, 2009 (10:14 am)
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I'm pretty good about that. well, in most cases I'm the stereotypical guy with it - I don't need directions! I'm not lost!
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Re: oh boy [gagrice] by lilengineerboy
Jun 26, 2009 (11:45 am)
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I can override my Toyota Sequoia NAV so my wife can input addresses while moving. I hate that lockout feature. If NJ is no better at enforcing the NAV law than CA the Cell phone law, it is just more wasted paper.
 
Do you have a pre-07 or do you have "lockpick?" Toyota got in a spot of trouble for that "diagnostic mode" and its gone now. I think you need to have a USB key or something in the back to make that work.
   
The way those lockouts work is it reads the VSS, and that is reasonably easy to interrupt going to the device. The more recent ones pull speed from the GPS itself, which is more of a challenge to defeat.
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Re: oh boy [lilengineerboy] by gagrice
Jun 26, 2009 (7:50 pm)
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Jun 26, 2009 11:45 am)

Mine is a 2007 Sequoia. Not a great NAV. In fact if it is the best Toyota has to offer I would never buy another one. Cannot find its way out of a paper sack. It has been slightly useful would be my analysis. Sent me on a dirt road with a locked gate. I would never waste the money to update unless it was like $25 for a new DVD. Is pretty much clueless on best routes to anywhere I have input.
 
You go into diagnostics and hit over ride. That lets you do anything until you shut the vehicle off. Then you have to do the little ritual. Another complaint. You want to go from San Diego to Phoenix you have to reload the different areas. No inputting an address in Albuquerque and have it take you there. Over all I am not that impressed with NAV. I will not leave home without my AAA maps.

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