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Re: No TomTom Love?? [robr2] by ateixeira
May 21, 2009 (10:43 am)
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Replying to: robr2 (May 20, 2009 8:33 am)

When I got my first one I tried both and simply preferred the interface that Garmin offered.
 
To be fair I haven't really looked at one lately, but I'm happy with Garmin so I haven't felt a need to change brands. Plus it's easy to copy Favorites over to a new GPS when you're brand loyal.
 
I did sample a Dash device and it was awful, and that sent me running back to Garmin.
 
Free map updates would be nice, though. Is that for the life of the device, or what?
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Re: No TomTom Love?? [ateixeira] by fezo
May 21, 2009 (10:46 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 21, 2009 10:43 am)

I'm only on my first unit and went with Garmin because it seemed to get the best recommendations. Nothing against any other brand but I'm very pleased with eth Garmin.
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Re: No TomTom Love?? [fezo] by ateixeira
May 21, 2009 (10:48 am)
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Replying to: fezo (May 21, 2009 10:46 am)

Another thing - a while back they did cost a bit more, but now I've noticed their prices more in line with competitors.
 
I paid $149 for a 4.3" screen with text-to-speech and a quick satellite signal, plus it has Canada maps. No major corners were cut and that's very low cost.
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Re: No TomTom Love?? [ateixeira] by steve_ HOST
May 21, 2009 (12:05 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 21, 2009 10:48 am)

For a while there I heard that Tom-Tom was more popular in Europe and Garmin led in the US. Don't know if that's still true. Garmin also led with handheld gizmos here too I think so they have the "first eyeballs" advantage going for them.
 
I'm pretty happy with my off-brand Nextar.
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Re: No TomTom Love?? [ateixeira] by robr2
May 21, 2009 (12:50 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (May 21, 2009 10:48 am)

I was wrong - Tomtom releases new maps every quarter. Their service runs $79 for a single annual upgrade or $40 for quarterly updates.
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Re: No TomTom Love?? [robr2] by ateixeira
May 22, 2009 (5:54 am)
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Replying to: robr2 (May 21, 2009 12:50 pm)

Cheapest I've seen the Garmin Map Update was $65 at Costco, that being for the single annual upgrade.
 
Or you can pay $119 IIRC and get lifetime map updates for one GPS device. Worth it if you pick a high-end model you're likely to keep for a while.
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Re: No TomTom Love?? [robr2] by robr2
May 22, 2009 (6:03 am)
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Replying to: robr2 (May 21, 2009 12:50 pm)

I was wrong - Tomtom releases new maps every quarter. Their service runs $79 for a single annual upgrade or $40 for quarterly updates.
 
I should note - that $40 is an annual cost for the 4 updates so it runs half the price of a single annual upgrade.
 
Further, that's the update cost for my particular model - others will vary.
 
The $40 a year isn't bad IMHO.
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Re: No TomTom Love?? [robr2] by ateixeira
May 22, 2009 (6:07 am)
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Replying to: robr2 (May 22, 2009 6:03 am)

Very cheap, actually. Any better and it would basically have to be free.
 
Subaru charges $230 for the 2 updated DVDs for the Tribeca. Ouch. Funny thing is there is a West Coast DVD and an East Coast DVD, so often people here buy them and split them, $115 each.
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subscription services by steve_ HOST
May 27, 2009 (6:04 am)
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I haven't read the article yet, but the photo alone is worth it.
 

 
Tech Tuesdays: Connected Portable Nav Test -- Internet Search Hits the Highway (Edmunds Daily)
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Re: subscription services [steve_] by ateixeira
May 27, 2009 (7:20 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (May 27, 2009 6:04 am)

I think these are all v1.0 and will improve a lot in the near future. I actually think Edmunds scores were a bit generous, all Bs and As. C should be the average, and save the As for the real gems.
 
I'm also a little disappointed that they didn't include a Garmin with MSN Direct in place of that Alpine. When I hear Alpine I think of audio stuff, not GPS.
 
Any how, I wonder if enough people will pay for all these subscription-based services. Like XM and Sirius, the business model won't sustain several competing services - they will have to merge and form one good one shared by the GPS industry. I bet half of these will be obsolete within 3 years.
 
Another thing - they rate the MSN Direct as the best traffic service, yet other feedback I've heard puts that well behind XM Traffic.
 
I will say that I do see room for improvement in my Garmin's search function, for instance picking the right category alone can be difficult. I was looking for the county recycling center and it fell under "Community", which is not exactly intuitive. So a Google-style search would really help.

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