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Re: Nuvi 350 at Wal-Mart [kyfdx] by steve_ HOST
Jun 20, 2008 (8:55 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Jun 20, 2008 8:39 am)

The 350 is small and I'm traveling next month so I'm tempted. But I'm taking my navigator with me and my birthday is months away.
 
Rumor is that the Nuvi 650-R is going to hit ~$215 soon, but who knows - that price sounds way wrong and would be $200 off msrp. Maybe I'll set an email alert up at FatWallet.
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Re: all the bells and whistles? [steve_] by ateixeira
Jun 24, 2008 (1:53 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jun 19, 2008 5:38 pm)

I wonder how well the voice commands work.
 
The ones on my BlackBerry don't.
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Navigation with real-time traffic by paotron
Jul 18, 2008 (7:00 am)
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Does anyone know which big size SUV or Minivans has the Navigation with real-time traffic information?
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More Sequoia NAV woes. by gagrice
Jul 20, 2008 (6:21 am)
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We drove out to look at a home on a lake very close to our home. The subdivision has been around since the 1970s. It has two lakes. One is pond the other a little over a mile long with homes lined all along one side. Our Sequoia NAV had the pond in the right location. It did not even show the lake. Who provides the software in the 07 Toyota Sequoia NAV units? I am getting so discouraged with this my first NAV, that I am about to pull the dang fuse and go back to my AAA maps & Thomas Brothers. I would NEVER buy another vehicle with NAV they are a total rip-off. At least if you buy a cheapo at Costco you can take it and get your money back. I think I am going to try going after Toyota. Maybe file a small claims against them.
 
Maybe someone with a Garmin will put in 3777 Via Palo Verde Lago, Alpine, CA 91901 and see if that address is on a lake. It is on Maps.live.com
 
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It also said it had no directions in this subd that is 30 years old.
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Re: More Sequoia NAV woes. [gagrice] by kiawah
Jul 20, 2008 (6:30 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 20, 2008 6:21 am)

My Garmin is out of the road already today, but I check my 2007 Microsoft Streets and Trips which runs on a laptop w/GPS. It typically has much greater detail than the Garmin.
 
I see that address in S&T, off of Via Dieguanos Road. It does however have it all shaded in green, as apparently it is part of the Cleveland National Forest area. I do see the Loveland Reservoir, large body of water.
 
I do see a pond (ouside of the National Forest Area), down off of Via Viejas and Via Belota.....so I'm suspecting it has something to do with the fact that it's in a National Forest area and a smaller pond.
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Re: More Sequoia NAV woes. [kiawah] by gagrice
Jul 20, 2008 (8:03 am)
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Replying to: kiawah (Jul 20, 2008 6:30 am)

Thank you for checking. Sounds like all NAVs use the same useless software. Loveland is a BIG lake further south. The pond you see is on my NAV as well. The lake that is in the subdivision is at least 10 times larger than that pond. The address I gave you is right on the lake. That street runs about half the length of the lake then it is a dirt road from there around the lake. It is in the Cleveland National Forest. When they get a NAV that is like maps.live.com it will be a useful tool. So far it has failed me about 3 out of 4 times that I really needed it.
 
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCC&cp=32.812679~-116.720595&style- =r&lvl=16&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=6215855&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=5A4C295- 5EFD17119!130&encType=1
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Re: Navigation with real-time traffic [paotron] by ponderpoint
Jul 21, 2008 (8:22 am)
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Replying to: paotron (Jul 18, 2008 7:00 am)

Some portables have real-time traffic now. Save yourself some money and ditch the in-dash navi - not worth the price. If you have "stupid money" and don't care, a lot of high-end SUV's have real time. The Acura MDX has a good one but, once again, if you leave it at the airport parking lot - all that capability is worthless when you pick up the rental car in Boise or wherever - could have taken the portable with you.
 
I have a 2006 Acura TL with an in-dash that I will let it idle with the display on so I can see where I am but past that, it's pretty much a dinosaur already. I leave the serious navigation to the portable comically perched above the in-dash until I grab it for the airline flight and the city I'm not familiar with.....
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Crazy directions, disappointing maps by lmacmil
Jul 21, 2008 (1:19 pm)
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I am using a Garmin 2610 with City Navigator 2008. It's generally pretty good but I was pretty disappointed getting in and out of Manhattan. Going thru New Jersey heading to the upper west side, it correctly pointed me to the George Washington Bridge but just before the bridge entrance, it told me to turn right and head towards Fort Lee. I ignored it, crossed the bridge and headed down the Henry Hudson Parkway (route 9A). Instead of exiting on 79th (the hotel was on 81st), it tried to send me down to about 34th street (couldn't really tell because I got off at 79th).
 
On the way out, the map where the HH Parkway hits the bridge were totally out of whack (these roads are at least 40 years old). It showed a 90 deg left turn where in reality there were ramps that veered left and right and at one point required a decision to go in one of three directions. The road signs were clear but who knows where the GPS would have taken me.
 
Once in PA on westbound I-80, it showed 2 rest areas where none existed (or had ever existed). Good thing I was pretty familiar with this route.
 
I wonder if the 2009 update has any of these issues fixed?
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Re: Crazy directions, disappointing maps [lmacmil] by ponderpoint
Jul 22, 2008 (7:19 am)
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Replying to: lmacmil (Jul 21, 2008 1:19 pm)

Going thru New Jersey heading to the upper west side, it correctly pointed me to the George Washington Bridge but just before the bridge entrance, it told me to turn right and head towards Fort Lee. I ignored it
 
Even with the best GPS units, you still have to intervene with the "human" view, even with a place or city you're not familiar with. The in-dash navi I have in an Acura TL is downright dismal, only useful now for getting a general picture of where you are but to have it navigate? - Pathetic. It will ignore a perfectly good state road that cuts a diagonal to favor the interstate, miles away.. Even with a "minimize freeways" selection, it's still pretty bad with strange routings....
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Re: Crazy directions, disappointing maps [ponderpoint] by ateixeira
Jul 30, 2008 (1:57 pm)
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Replying to: ponderpoint (Jul 22, 2008 7:19 am)

I agree, your own common sense often prevails.
 
Yesterday my brother came to pick me up at Dulles air port, and the GPS didn't tell him to use the Dulles Toll Road, which for airport traffic is free and never is full even at rush hour.
 
Instead he sat in rush hour traffic and was almost an hour late.
 
I don't think the software can think and reason the way a human can, probably never will. It calculates distance and time, and maybe a few other inputs.
 
Having said that, it's still a useful tool and adds information for the human to make decisions. If you know a better way - take it! Let the GPS recalculate and keep up with you. The maps are useful, as are the distance and time remaining, things like that.
 
I would have taken the Dulles Toll Road, let it recalculate, and then it would still have been useful to tell me how many miles to the airport, plus an ETA. I could call and say I'll be there around x:xx.
 
For Gary's case, I'm thinking perhaps gated communities are private and therefore not as well mapped?

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