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You are in the Toyota Sienna
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Toyota Sienna, Van
Jan 27, 2004 (8:50 am)
Check out the ratings at IIHS before selecting your next rental car. Other than luxury cars, the only comparably-high-rated passenger cars for Safety to the Taurus are the Honda Accord, the Audi A4, the Saab 9-3 and the Toyota Avalon. I'm guessing your rental choices of those will be pretty much the Taurus or Accord. If there aren't any Accords available, I'd rather be safe than rattle-free. YMMV
Of course, the 2004 Sienna rates just as well. But then, I don't think you'll find one on the rental lots for a while yet....
I'm looking for a second car for my only-two-day-a-week commutes. The increased depreciation of the Taurus, coupled with its high safety ratings is leading me toward saving $5000 or so on buying a low-mileage used one rather than a comparable Accord. With such low use and the money saved, I can afford a lot of repairs. Besides, I have an exceptionally good Ford dealer nearby (as experience with my recently-sold 1999 Ford F150 Supercab showed).
#1478 of 2995 agree w/ dako_tian
Jan 27, 2004 (11:03 am)
Taurus seems to be an excellent value, pre-owned or new. Excellent incentives, classy interior, nice fit and finish all at a low price.
Question- do the steering wheel controls on the Sienna light up when headlights are on?
#1479 of 2995 ADDING NAV SOMEHTING ELSE by nofeer
Jan 27, 2004 (12:14 pm)
I disagree. Factory NAV is better.
First, the factory NAV ends up costing you less when compared to a good aftermarket NAV like Alpine, Pioneer, Kenwood, Magellan, etc.
Second, the factory NAV also comes with a back-up camera. It would costs you a lot more to add a back-up camera to an aftermarket NAV.
The under $1K NAVs are okay, but they are not as good or as fast as the DVD-based NAV.
Second, the factory NAV is warrantied along with all the other equipments in your van. This works out great especially if you get the extended warranty since it will cover the NAV too.
Aftermarket NAVs are warrantied for no more than 1 yr.
3rd, factory NAV just looks sooooooooo much better and cooler on the dash than aftermarket NAVs.
4th, if you plan on keeping your van for 10 years like I do, by then you'd want a new NAV TECHNOLOGY anyway. NAVs are like computers. In 10 years, they're probably not all that great anymore. You want the latest and hottest NAV at the time. Yeah, man, in 10 years, I expect a 1 Petahertz--that's 1 million Gigahertz---I had to look that one up ------Pentium 100 type technology.
#1480 of 2995 can NAV be added to an LE? by alaput
Jan 27, 2004 (12:19 pm)
I would recommend letting the professional store install an Alpine NAV+6.5" monitor for $2K plus labor. The screen in a fixed touch-screen, but they can install that on top of the dash.
They have a motorized screen too, but that will cost you $2,500 plus labor.
Bottom line, you can add an excellent NAV to any vehicle, but it will cost you at least the same if not more than the factory NAV.
Jan 27, 2004 (12:51 pm)
Heck, in 10 years I expect a heads up display projected on the lower part of the windshield (ala current fighter jets) of the NAV in 3 dimensions!
#1483 of 2995 Buy the Toyota
Jan 27, 2004 (7:23 pm)
I had, noticed I said had, a 2001 Ford Windstar SE Sport. It was a great van until I drove it off of the lot. The van was painted six times. I had the gas tank replaced, my rear window fell out, and many other repairs. I was in PA at the time and they have a great Lemon Law program. I won at the trial. I had to keep the van, but they paid off the loan. It was not worth much when I traded it in this past December. They now have the new Freestar so the bluebook has gone down for the Windstar.
I can't say enough about the Toyota. It drives so much better than the Ford. The ride is also great. We have just over 900 miles on it, I'm sure there is something that will go wrong, but my wife and I love it. Not sure if you test drove one yet, but it drives so much different than the Ford. That's my two cents. Good luck.
#1484 of 2995 Tortoise...WHOA! ...Guffaw, snort!
Jan 27, 2004 (7:58 pm)
Have you guys actaully DRIVEN a Tortoise? I mean not only a rattle box that can't get outta it's own way, but uncomfortable and just feels cheap! I'd swear it has a doggy 4 cyl. in it, I popped the hood the first time I drove the newer one off the rental lot, I still can't believe it was a 6! I took it back for the 4 cyl. Solara, that I can live with for 600+ miles of prairie.
I drive MANY miles in a vehicle when I hit the road. I'd take a Civic or Corolla over that Ford junk when I do windsheild time and I'm well over 6' tall!
My pitifully slow '90 Tortoise rode better that the new ones but required 3 trannys to get it to 100K.
I think the only vehicles we ever used in the courier busines that were undoubtably worse is the Neon line. They had trouble getting to 40 or 60K w/o trannys, radiators, waterpumps, or valvejobs. I've had Bic lighters last longer!!
#1485 of 2995 3D Hologram NAV by dako_tian
Jan 28, 2004 (5:49 am)
Now that's what I'm talking about
In 10 years, I don't even want to be pressing any NAV buttons. I just want to say, "Destination: 1300 NW Expressway, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma", and the NAV 3-D hologram supermodel confirms it by repeating the address and I say, "Yes", and away we go!
#1486 of 2995 NAV w/laptop by alaput
Jan 28, 2004 (5:55 am)
I have that DeLorme Earthmate for my laptop too, but it's slow as heck. And starting it up is slower than heck.
You better find a good strap for that laptop and the GPS receiver or you will be hurting someone, the laptop, and losing a lot of signals. And once you lose that GPS signal, yes, it is slower than heck to get it back.
I hate laptop GPS.