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BMW 3 Series, BMW 5 Series, BMW 7 Series
#409 of 729 new BMWs are hideous
Feb 20, 2005 (4:34 pm)
Why did they do this?
They were not stagnating. Or, at least very, very few were saying that they were stagnating. The 2001-2003 530i is still one of the best BMWs ever made.
I HATE the interior of the new 5 series. Not even the $85,000+ M5 has a decent interior. The grey plastic around the Shift-My-Gears knob screams cheap. The new M5 doesn't even have four-piston caliper brakes. Car magazines are reporting brake fade from the M5. Given the problems with the current M3's engine, I'm not so sure about the M5's engine.
I can't wait for the next-generation M5 with a 10-speed transmission! LOL!
BMW had record sales in 2004 along with a record number of recalls/service actions.
The BMW X3 isn't even made at a BMW factory. LOL!
The new 3 series looks boring because if they gave it the styling of the 5 series or 1 series, people would be even more furious.
The grille of the new 5 series looks like the grille of a Pontiac. The taillights of the new 5 series look like the taillights of a 2001 Kia Rio.
The taillights of the new 3 series look like the taillights of a Nissan Primera.
When the new 5 series came out, I thought it was better than the 7 series, but after seeing it in person along with the previous 5 series it looked nasty.
Why do the new BMWs have so many electronics? Do we need computers with wheels?
Feb 21, 2005 (2:20 pm)
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#411 of 729 Regarding the Bangling of BMW
Feb 24, 2005 (4:21 pm)
Rumor has it that Chris Bangle is on the payroll of Mercedes, LOL. As least the new designs are distinctive, not very attractive but distinctive. Actually the Z4 and 6 series have grown on me.
The new interiors with the I drive you crazy are a complete letdown. Has anyone sat in the interior of the new X3? They must be kidding. Honda has a nicer interior.
Feb 24, 2005 (7:06 pm)
X-3 was a mistake, horrible offroader (due to lack of protection) and bad on road car because of the offroad suspension. HOWEVER, the 7 series was a huge gamble and is starting to pay off, I love the new styling, and off course they are going to tweek the designs, the first time I saw a 6 was driving past teh dealership at night in my 7 and i looked and thought they had an Austin Martin on the lot, but after pulling in to look at it it was the 6! in black, truly an incredible car, took it for a test drive and thought about trading my 7 for it! (but I dont think my insurance would like another 2 door 300+ hp sports coupe in the family) The 5 made me look twice at the rearend, and im not sure what i feel when I see it, but the rest of the car is amazing and the M5 is a truely wonderfull car as tested by Motor trend it sent the Benz back home crying. BMW is always into exlusivity while selling many 3's too keep their market share. They are not for everyone but for the people they are for they are amazing. Oh and about iDrive, its really not that hard once you learn it. yea you have to shuffle through a few pages but its not as hard as everyone is saying, maybe thats just me though.
#413 of 729 6 series looks like an Aston Martin?
Feb 24, 2005 (9:34 pm)
you're joking, right?
The new M5 doesn't even have four piston caliper brakes! what a joke!
Here is the new M6 in all its shame with lines going all over the place.
and here is the new Aston Martin DB9 which has a chassis twice as rigid as the DB7.
Here is the DB9 Volante.
#414 of 729 BMW vs Aston-Martin
Feb 25, 2005 (1:25 am)
While their shapes are remotely similar, both being coupes...the Aston-Martin is miles and miles ahead in its rear-end treatment. The BMW is aggressive where the Aston is simply beautifully elegant. The BMW is nice but the Aston is otta here gorgeous.
The Aston-Martin DB9 is imo the best looking production car in the world today.
A different behind is in order for the BMW.
#415 of 729 Four-piston brakes...
by kyfdx@Edmunds HOST
Feb 25, 2005 (8:07 am)
I'm betting the M5 will stop so quickly, that your dentures will come flying out of your mouth.. I don't car if they use rubber bands and paper clips for brakes, as long as they work correctly...
This is what happens when you read too many magazines, instead of driving real cars...
Stats don't make great cars... but, great designers and engineers do..
Feb 25, 2005 (2:57 pm)
I agree and BMW has said why they didn't go overboard with pistons on their brakes.
They stated the tire size and the size of the contact patch of the tire is what determines stopping distance, not the amount of pistons.
I'm sure too that the M5 will outbrake the E/CLS55 or XJR or any S-series Audi with ease.
#417 of 729 Re: 6 series looks like an Aston Martin? [xkss]
Feb 25, 2005 (6:18 pm)
Hi all. This is my first time posting. I am new here.
I think the new 6-series looks good...well, acceptable, anyway. The Aston is a beautiful car, but its design is predictable.
The rear treatment of the new 6 is not bad and I think BMW should refine it more to make it look like a $70,000 car. As it is now, the rear end looks a bit like that a certain Chrysler car whose name I don't remember.
I've seen the Aston coupe and it looks much better than the convertible. I've never really cared much for open top cars. Maybe that's why I can't warm up to the 6-series convertible. The 6's drop-top looks too much like something from Detroit.
#418 of 729 Re: Four-piston brakes... [kyfdx]
Feb 25, 2005 (11:37 pm)
Why does Porsche use four piston caliper brakes for many of its cars instead of two pistons caliper brakes?
The new M5 will just be a rich man's Subaru WRX...fast but it has zero taste and class like the old M5s.
Since the M5 has side vents but the M6 doesn't, why does the M5 need them?
The new 5 series looks like a Pontiac.