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#381 of 728 by m4d_cow Sep 08, 2004 (12:01 am)
He deserves it. He did a great job in moving forward a design, which is destined to become a classic in it's time. More and more people are liking what he accomplished.   i wont deny it though, the fact is i like the design elements separately. what makes me hate the newer beemers is because when the elements are put togethers theres no unity to the look, just like what saugatak said in another forum. Replies to this message: kdshapiro (Sep 08, 2004 6:49 am)
#382 of 728 Re: [m4d_cow] by kdshapiro Sep 08, 2004 (6:49 am)
Replying to: m4d_cow (Sep 08, 2004 12:01 am) I don't agree though. The lines flow into one another. Oh yeah, they'll tweak 'em, they always do. The only thing I don't like about the lines, is the new/updated price tag.
#383 of 728 well by tlcman Sep 15, 2004 (12:48 pm)
from time to time i come here to spill my thoughts... So here I go... When it comes to the new design I cant stop looking at them... I dont care for the trunk but like kdshapiro said the lines follow through. Look at the side of the car and you will see how the roofline flows off the back and is picked up by the (i´ll admit it) not so pretty tail lights. I think this is a good redefining step for BMW it put limits their sales to people who love BMW for what it is style. Now dont be offended all of you who love the old bodys and hate the new, I was one of you. I have a owned several BMW´s and my most recent is the 2000 740iL and loved their body styles. the First 745, and 760 I saw I almost lost it and thought I had spied a upcoming production car. I hated it, the lines the trunk....everything... but the more I looked at it the more I fell in love with it, now I can say that I absolutetly love the line...minus the trunk, that one still needs to be developed farther. And with the Introduction of the F1 inspired M5 for the production year of 2006, I dont think BMW has missed a beat. I see Bangles styles much more agressive, and futuristic. I have said before on this post that I think that his styles were only good for the Z4 and 6 series. the sports cars that need that attitude, the Im here look at me and remember type... Now I after testing a 545i and a 760i I can defenitly say that Im all for the style, and my next BMW will be a 5 series. Lets not just talk about the out side but the refinement of the cabin is the best I have seen in a long time... I hate the iDrive, although this version is easier to use than the previous version.. But matterials are always high grade in BMW and assembely of the products is very good... I only can complain about the cup holder in my 740 that my wife has broken 3 times... Caddies... I can not stand their styling at all... as Motor Trend said ´the styling trys to hard to impress but it doesnt´ I do have to complement them on their stides forward in the RWD catagory, the power that it has, the cornering that it is capable of. But despite that I can not look at any of the caddies and see luxury. Comparing the smooth lines of a BMW and the choppy boxy look of the caddies is not valid. Motor Trend also complemented Cadilac for its strides forward in a comparison between the 545i and the comprarble caddy (im sorry i dont know the name) , one of the editors said somthing like, ´Cadilac comes to the fight with a gun now instead of a knife´ Have they made major advances? Yes, can they right now touch the BMW name in preformance and luxury? No they need time to rebuild their name.
#385 of 728 by carlisimo Sep 29, 2004 (12:07 am)
Has anyone else warmed up to the new 5-series? I'm not weirded out by it anymore. It's not looking so bad in black anymore...
#386 of 728 carlisimo by m4d_cow Sep 29, 2004 (12:27 am)
im getting used to it, still dont like it much though, but the new M5 is indeed great looking particularly the wheels. i agree w/ parrish about audi and mercs styling, theyre doing great.
#387 of 728 Cold ashes, new vigil by designman Sep 29, 2004 (4:41 am)
I couldn't warm up to the new 5, 7 or Z4 if I was cremated in them. What's more, this BMW styling schism is ruining the pleasure of my E39 ownership. Would have been nice to have a little more affection for the marque I have followed since the days of the 2002. That was ugly too but for some reason I loved it. Can't do it with this repertoire and can't wait for the successors to these platforms. My only ember is the X3 and it's for reasons other than styling. Replies to this message: pearl (Sep 29, 2004 6:28 am)
#388 of 728 Re: Cold ashes, new vigil [designman] by pearl Sep 29, 2004 (6:28 am)
Replying to: designman (Sep 29, 2004 4:41 am) Well put. No doubt the old saying "to each his own" is true; however, in many, many years of following auto trends, I have rarely seen/heard this much negative commentary about a new design - AND - it clearly IS affecting sales. After the initial wave of the "gotta have a new one" crowd wore off, BMW 5 series sales are down. I have an E39 that I had hoped to trade on a new E60 - I love BMWs, but no way Jose. I am waiting to see/drive the new RL, M45, GS430 and STS. Chances are good that I will buy one of them.
#389 of 728 by kdshapiro Sep 29, 2004 (7:33 am)
The issue is price. I love the new looks of the Bangled-up models. In fact, I'd love to be cremated and buried in a 760.   However, I think the issue is price. A fully loaded 530 for $60K?, when you can get a 2005 RL for the upper $40s. (Although here is where I agree with fellow posters about not trusting the reliability of any new model). People are put off by the price, not by the lines. People have more praise for the 5 series than designman thinks.   For a few $$$ more I would buy a 3 series over a G35. But I wouldn't spend $10K more for a 530 over an RL. I would spend $10K more for a 545 however. Replies to this message: pearl (Oct 01, 2004 5:53 pm)
#390 of 728 I agree by tlcman Sep 29, 2004 (10:06 am)
the price has moved up, when in the old days it was the 3 series (30,000) 5, (50,000) and 7, (70,000) do we see a trend here? well BMW, has made some big changes, one they changed their heavily praised steering, to a speed sensing ratio changing config, which is nice for the sunday drive but not what a BMW is made for doing, touring. They changed the computer, I love my nav system in my 2002 740 why didnt they just stick with that? And finaly they changed the price, because they are finaly realizing they made to many changes too quickly and need to show some more return on them. One thing they have not changed however (and I praise them for it) is their attention to detail, every car is assembled with presicion that IMO has never been matched by a domestic car, its only competitors are other german and Italian cars. I will certainly purchase another BMW, but I dont think I will get the 7 again, as much as I love mine now, I would have to down step to the 5, because I believe it represents what BMW is more so than the ´learn how to drive me´ 7 series.

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