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#371 of 728 Re: Styling effect on sales [xmf314] by rich545 Aug 16, 2004 (1:50 pm)
Replying to: xmf314 (Aug 16, 2004 11:23 am) The Cadillac is better looking than the E60? Please...the new Cadillac's are some of the ugliest cars I've ever seen. But I guess that proves one thing. People have different taste in cars and no one is right or wrong. Also, people that like the new designs are going to like them regardless of what other people think as people that hate them will continue to hate them. We can speculate all we want about the reasons behind sales figures and at the end of the day we're really probably all looking at the numbers with some bias. Bottom line is, if the new designs aren't to your liking buy something else. If you do like them buy them. You can mention any car and there will always be those that like it and those that don't. Take the new Chrysler 300 as an example. I think it's one of the most hideous cars I've ever seen. But friends of mine love it. I'm no more right in hating it than they are in loving it. I guess I just really don't see the point in complaining so much about the new Bangle designs when we have a choice in terms of what cars we buy. Replies to this message: xmf314 (Aug 16, 2004 6:25 pm)
#372 of 728 6 series vs 5 series styling by vsaxena Aug 16, 2004 (3:54 pm)
I do not think it is fair to compare the styling of the 6 series to the E60.   The new 7 series is different but not bad. The new 6 series has much smoother lines. The Z4 is a beauty. A bit too aggressive in styling than the typical rounded convertible/roadster out there, but with harmony. The E60, however, was the pinnacle of Banglization.   I know more than a few people who have bought different cars because of the styling. They are folks who had made up their mind to buy Bimmers but were really put of by the styling.   I think the price inflation in the E60 also did not help its sales either. The only thing most people can afford right now are the 3 series cars. Unfortunately they are too small for many.   MB is doing very well in the styling of their vehicles. Their styling distinguishes vehicles from different classes (C/E/S), but still provides continuity in styling. There is a lot harmony in the MB styling. A C2xx can be had for less than $30K and looks awesome.   The 5 series needs to come down in pricing and move up in styling before cross-shoppers will flock to it.
#373 of 728 by glaker Aug 16, 2004 (4:26 pm)
As I read the comments about the similarity people seem to see among autos, it brings to mind a local commercial for a car dealership that sells Hyundai. In the commercial, the owner of the dealership and his pitchman are standing in front of a Sonata holding the hood ornament removed from a Jag. Their story is that, rather than spend $50K for a Jag, you can come into their dealership and spend $15K for a Sonata - which looks just like the Jag. All your friends will think you have a new Jag. Then you can use the $35K difference to put toward college costs for your kids. And even better (according to them), you’ll still be driving the Sonata long after the kids finish college because the Sonata has a 10 year warranty! As the commercial would say, their idea (and deal on the Sonata) is HUGE!   Why didn’t I know all this when I bought my 530? I coulda had a Tiburon instead!
#374 of 728 Re: Styling effect on Sales [kdshapiro] by sphinx99 Aug 16, 2004 (4:46 pm)
Replying to: kdshapiro (Aug 16, 2004 11:35 am) "the fact that Neiman-Marcus sold out 50 special edition 6-series in 7 minutes, says people are out there who like the styling/materials/new directions."   Oh, c'mon. Neiman-Marcus could sell out 50 special edition Cadillac Allantes in 7 minutes. I know people who budget for monthly, quarterly and/or yearly big-dollar Neiman-Marcus Purchases just for the sake of it.
#375 of 728 Re: Styling effect on sales [rich545] by xmf314 Aug 16, 2004 (6:25 pm)
Replying to: rich545 (Aug 16, 2004 1:50 pm) "The Cadillac is better looking than the E60? Please...the new Cadillac's are some of the ugliest cars I've ever seen"   I agree that new Cadillac's are poorly styled. However, with the 2005 STS Cadillac has finally got the styling right.   I think it will steal more that a few sales from the 5 series.
#376 of 728 STS by m4d_cow Aug 17, 2004 (12:25 am)
i kinda like the new STS too and id choose it over the new 5 for sure...   glaker: come on, man its not fair to compare a bmw with a hyundai well, not that i have kids to worry about though... Replies to this message: rich545 (Aug 17, 2004 4:00 am)
#377 of 728 Re: STS [m4d_cow] by rich545 Aug 17, 2004 (4:00 am)
Replying to: m4d_cow (Aug 17, 2004 12:25 am) Really? I guess that's a case in point. I hate it (and every other Cadillac as well), and I don't see how it's less angular or more "harmonious" than the E60 or other Bangle designs. I would guess that for every person that would choose the STS over the E60 there is another like me that would never own a Caddie over a BMW. It's not a status thing. I just don't like how American cars look or drive and I really feel that the materials we use in our cars is way sub-standard (even in a Caddie). Don't know why our leather seats always seem to feel like p-leather. To each there own though. I just looked at the performance numbers for the new STS against the 545 and it doesn't really stack up too well. Slower in every category. Plus I've never seen a dash in an American car that I really like.
#379 of 728 What? An award for Bangle??? by rich545 Sep 07, 2004 (1:05 pm)
Not trying to re-ignite this debate, but thought people might find this article interesting:   http://www.bmwboard.com/news/view.asp?linkid=415
#380 of 728 by kdshapiro Sep 07, 2004 (1:18 pm)
He deserves it. He did a great job in moving forward a design, which is destined to become a classic in it's time. More and more people are liking what he accomplished.

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