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#301 of 728 kdshapiro, by m4d_cow Jul 14, 2004 (10:18 am)
"Bangle took a big risk and seems to be paying off. BMWs are like art, they take time to be appreciated. Picasso was not a hit when he started out either. I do think the designs need to be tweaked though, not trashed. My guess is that people are waiting to see what the new model year brings and when the new models arrive, sales will sky-rocket."   thats really interesting, i kinda agree w/ it, since the designs arent that bad overall (save the 5s butt and 7s eyebrows). im also into modern stylings, nothing overly radical though. but in any case i would say the biggest failure BMW did recently is creating the X3. except for its off road capabilities, theres no good about it, harsh ride, weirdo design, mediocre material quality. is this really what a bmw is supposed to be?   btw, boxster is just as good as any porsche could be, while they can say its a cheaper version of 911, it handles just as well as any 911 for nearly half the price
#302 of 728 by tlcman Jul 14, 2004 (12:42 pm)
I agree with all of you, and the X3 was BMW's big flop, m4d cow pointed out that it doesnt do anything except off-roading well and your right, but even its off road capabilities are severly dampends due to the lack of any under body armour that is nessecary for any medium trails.
#303 of 728 by carlisimo Jul 14, 2004 (6:00 pm)
Hm... everyone tells me I have a messed up sense of style, and that seems to be especially true when it comes to BMWs. I'm not a big fan of any of the new designs other than the 6 (nothing unusual there) but I don't hold the outgoing styles on a pedestal and I find the older ones really quite plain. I can see the classiness in them, but no emotion.
#304 of 728 x3 by m4d_cow Jul 15, 2004 (8:27 am)
underbody armor, this might be the most vital part BMW "forgot" to install. what the heck were they thinking when they built the x3? were they on drugs or something?   sadly, i found the true simplicity and elegance in the old 5, as for the new 5, this might sound funny, but the only character i can see in it is anger, whenever i see it i always think its lookin angry with me all the time lol.
#305 of 728 by tlcman Jul 15, 2004 (1:32 pm)
The X3 was engineered and built by Germans who build road cars that need light underbody armor, they had not thought about the off road mishaps that it might encounter on their SUV. I agree with you m4d cow they look angry, but it also looks intimidating and I think that that works better on their sports coupes where you want to look mean and intimidating, like the Z4 or 6 series. But for their 5 and 7 series family cars? I like the look but I think that it is out of place. While they are still sports cars with gobs of performance the 5 and 7's are still family cars... BMW, some words of advise, keep bangles designs but only apply them to 2 door sports coupes... And tone down the look of the 5 and 7's then I and allot of other people would be happy...
#306 of 728 Design of the 5 & 7... by lovemyclk Jul 15, 2004 (2:52 pm)
Although both designs are polarizing, the 7 does have a certain "presence" on the road. I'm even acclimating to the new 5, but as a 2003 530 SP owner, my biggest complaint is with the interior control interfaces.   Seats are wonderful, it's screwed together nicely, but BMW has instilled a "coldness" and an impersonal nature to the interiors of both the 5 & 7 IMO. The 7 has the requisite luxury ambience, but the 5 is somewhat sterile.   I miss the cockpit-like feel in my e39. The overall goodness of the e39 keeps me from rushing to buy the latest creations from BMW. Conversely, I am not automatically drawn to other marques in a display of civil disobedience to BMW!   MB makes some beautiful cars (we've owned several since 1997), but they have their cross to bear in the form of lousy electronics QA on their vehicles. I will NOT pay their price of entry to receive mediocre to poor quality operating sub-systems, no matter how well screwed together they are.   For me, BMW still hits the mark on driving aesthetics, but lose the "I'm too smart for my own good" school of thought on the human interface design! Fix things now before it is too late and resale values plummet on the 2003-4 models.
#307 of 728 by carlisimo Jul 15, 2004 (6:45 pm)
I thought the X3 was meant to be the tall car everyone in the US seems to want. Its off road capabilities are probably good enough for what's common in Europe, unpaved paths leading to mountain chalets.
#308 of 728 5 series by m4d_cow Jul 16, 2004 (6:19 am)
but it also looks intimidating and I think that that works better on their sports coupes where you want to look mean and intimidating, like the Z4 or 6 series.   true that and i agree with you that bangle should design only 2 doors instead.   lovemyclk: i also felt the same way, cold w/o emotion, thats how i see the interior. i-drive more a hassle than a help.
#309 of 728 7 Series Good 5 Series Not To Good by vsaxena Jul 16, 2004 (7:06 am)
I like the new 7 Series Styling. The falling sales numbers could just have been indication of a poor economy for this range of cars along with the I-Drive. I do not think it was the styling only which caused the problem. I guess once the economy picks up the 7 series will start doing better.   I can not like the new 5 series styling. The lines are all screwed up and the angled lights just do not do justice to the car. The only color I have found it tolerable is black. I guess once you can not see the lines of the car it becomes less discomforting. Even there the lights stand out. This car lacks harmony. It does not convey a feeling of balance. Contrast that with the looks of the new Acura or the MBs and the choice becomes a no brainer.
#310 of 728 Carlisimo by tlcman Jul 17, 2004 (8:38 pm)
The X3 was a mistake, on road handling stinks and the lack of a low transfer case and absolutely no underbody armor makes this car an absolute flop... As for Europe.... the price of gas in the EU is astronomical, when I was there 2 weeks ago it was the equivalent to 5-6 U.S. dollars for a litre..... in other words you dont see many SUV's if any in the EU. Any light front wheel or even rear wheel drive car can travel throughout the EU and even to the mountains.... I believe I saw a total of 20 or so SUV's during my stay, and even in Germany, they are just to uneconomical... Replies to this message: bavarian (Jul 18, 2004 4:11 pm)

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