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#271 of 728 by kdshapiro May 05, 2004 (12:28 pm)
"He's the brilliant designer of iMacs, iPods and other Apple products"   I'm not fond of those designs, I don't own a Mac, IPOD or any Apple product. I'm a Windows type of guy. (gimme BSOD ). BMW without doubt would lose me, and others like me as a customer.
#272 of 728 Jonathan Ive by designman May 07, 2004 (3:50 am)
Although I don’t believe brilliant industrial designers such as Jonathan Ive are the answer for iDrive, I fail to see how making iDrive intuitive hence easier to use would lose BMW customers. The whole iDrive concept, although flawed in my opinion, is to make the automobile easier to use. In this respect Ive would fit in as a design director.   However, I can see Ive’s hand at exterior and interior styling. He has also expressed an interest in auto design even though he also states that he doesn’t believe he would be good at it—a modest self-assessment I disagree with. He has what it takes and what is missing at BMW.   It may be wise for auto manufacturers to lure him, but given their design mentality these days I doubt this will happen. It’s just too much of a maverick move considering he has no automotive experience.   Kd… I work with Windows PCs and Macs intensely, toggling between them all day because I have to. I have no loyalty either way. PCs are Fords, Macs are Porsches. And this is not just my opinion.
#273 of 728 by kdshapiro May 07, 2004 (3:35 pm)
designman - written in tongue in cheek. Am really a fan of the ipod. Point you're trying to make and I agree with, are that interface designers need to be brought in early in the process for these types of initiatives. I really think BMW represents the Windows mindset, and maybe it's a good thing to have some MAC mindset.   You don't need to be an automotive design genius to develop an interface to an idrive type of system.
#274 of 728 Haa by tlcman Jun 14, 2004 (4:48 pm)
ok for my job i have worked with the best of windows technology around since 2000 when we switched from macs, I have to say that switch has cost my company dearly over the last four years, with new softwear patches, techs coming, fixing, charging, leaving only to come back fix and charge some more. I am a mac user from the first day, and I believe that it is an utter put down to consider BMW made in the windows mind set. I also dont think that it is fair to compare with macs, why? because these car are built with such care and dedication that no computer can be compared to them. It would be very interesting to see Ive get in to designing interfaces for BMW, but I highly doubt that will ever happen. I have been to The Oxford Plant one of BMWs production facilities (mainly for the MINI) and the pride and presicion that goes in to their cars is unmatched, I highly doubt that BMW would hire and outsider to design something for them its more of a pride issue rather than personal preference. I agree it would be better, and I personally think that BMW should stick to creating the Ultimate Driving Machine instead of the Ultimate Computer.
#275 of 728 3 series make-over by kimg Jun 24, 2004 (7:14 pm)
When do you think the 3 series will get a make-over like the 5 series? Interested in buying a 3 series, but not sure I want to purchase a vehicle that might have drastic body style changes in the next year or two. I guess it's difficult to predict the future, but any insights out there?
#276 of 728 kimg by m4d_cow Jun 24, 2004 (10:52 pm)
i heard they will start hitting the showrooms on sept '05. as for the design there are some pictures available, you can find it in the "2005 BMW 3 series sedan" forum. mostly photoshopped though, but they can give you the idea on how the new 3 might look, as almost all pics there have the same basic idea on the design. and you can decide yourself if the change is worth waiting for or not. hope this helps Replies to this message: kimg (Jun 27, 2004 4:53 pm)
#277 of 728 kimg by saugatak Jun 25, 2004 (12:30 am)
The new 3 series are supposed to get MUCH more powerful engines. If you're a performance nut, I'd advise waiting.   If you don't care about the extra power and are not a fan of Bangle designs, then maybe you'd be better off getting the last pre-Bangle 3s before he beats them with his ugly stick.
#278 of 728 by kdshapiro Jun 25, 2004 (6:12 am)
The photoshopped 3's looked very nice. Although I think we'll have to wait a bit until we see the final version.
#279 of 728 kdshapiro by m4d_cow Jun 25, 2004 (10:31 am)
too bad i dont wanna take the risk, and also considering the fact that 2nd yr productions are usually better than 1st yr models so im taking one soon and if the new ones any good, i can always trade it
#280 of 728 m4d_cow by saugatak Jun 25, 2004 (10:40 am)
BMW was discounting the last of the e39 5 series as the market was anticipating the new e60 5 series.   After people actually saw the e60 5-series, the e39 5-series actually went UP in price. So people who got the latest e39 5-series actually made money. Amazing, a luxury car that is actually an APPRECIATING asset.   IMO, I doubt that the same thing will happen with the 3-series b/c of the better engines.   The photoshopped 3's looked very nice. Although I think we'll have to wait a bit until we see the final version. --kdshapiro   I agree. They look OK to me too.

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