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#2313 of 2332 Re: Hoping '06 Legacys and Outbacks... [subaruqueen]
by rsholland
Jul 19, 2005 (6:20 am)
True, but unfortunately only with automatic trannys (except the Legacy Spec B). Are you saying they are now starting to arrive at dealers?
Bob
Jul 19, 2005 (9:23 am)
Color me converted.
I used to be in the camp that didn't ask for NAV, but after sampling one for a few days I want it! And not just on the priciest models, how 'bout offering on a Legacy 2.5i Limited? Or a Forester X Limited?
So far it'll only be available with the H6 or turbo engines, I'd like to see it offered on some 4 cylinder models as well.
-juice
#2315 of 2332 Spread the NAV around!
by rsholland
Jul 19, 2005 (9:27 am)
This feature should be an option on every Subaru sold. It should not be just restricted to their priciest models.
Sooner or later some car company in the market segments Subaru competes in will do just that. I just hope Subaru is the first to do so.
Bob
#2316 of 2332 Mazda3 offers it
by ateixeira
Jul 19, 2005 (9:28 am)
At just over $20k, why not an Outback Sport?
-juice
#2317 of 2332 Re: Mazda3 offers it [ateixeira]
by rsholland
Jul 19, 2005 (9:30 am)
Yep, and this is a perfect example. BigElm just got a new Mazda3, so Subaru customers do cross-shop Mazdas and other FWD cars.
Bob
#2318 of 2332 Re: Mazda3 offers it [rsholland]
by bigelm
Jul 19, 2005 (7:27 pm)
Yep. Granted, it's not touch screen but it's just as functional. Too bad I couldn't locate one with NAV but they ARE selling; hence the reason I couldn't find one. Mazda didn't think it would be such a popular request but they're not complaining.
I say Subaru needs to cover these "little" areas if they are seriously trying to compete in this segment. As a matter of fact, just do like Mazda does... I got the SP 2.3 which adds, leather, moonroof, LED rear lights (hatchback model only), rain sensor, xenons, auto on/off headlights, 17"wheels and some other goodies at a very attractive price.
That's good for people like me, who are buying a house and don't have much money to spare
Not to mention, keeping in touch with those who want a fun, reliable car without the "upscale" price. Come on Subaru!!!
#2319 of 2332 Re: Mazda3 offers it [bigelm]
by dino001
Jul 20, 2005 (6:55 am)
Do you expect it fro free, do you think you'll be ready to pay for it? Add all those gizmos to the base price of Impreza RS/OB Sport and you'll end up with the bill of some $25K sticker, say $22-23 discount. In WRX you'll push $30/$28 respectively. This is dangerously close to "fully loaded" 6-cyl Camcord area. I also like "stuff", and am not a big fan of Camcord bunch, so it may have some appeal to me, too, but how many of us are out there? According to their scientific research, probably not more than five, since Subaru just dropped manual on their Legacy GT/GT Ltd wagon (which effectively put those cars outside of my interest, but who cares about some strange guy talking with a funny accent
).
Jul 20, 2005 (6:59 am)
We'd be ready to pay. I found the feature extremely useful, and we tend to look at base models.
-juice
#2321 of 2332 Why Isolate???
by bigelm
Jul 20, 2005 (5:58 pm)
This is my problem with the way people think. If Subaru offered at least 'some' of the competitor's features or have them as options; there are people who are willing to pay just because they believe in Subaru (like myself). But when reality kicks in, then who isolates themselves, the consumer or Subaru?
Just offer it, even as options for base models, and people will pay! That's everyone's beef with Subaru, they just don't offer it and if they do, it's just high end models. Yeah.. that doesn't work for those who don't need to spend top dollar to get these little 'gizmos' or whatever you want to call it.
If they have the itch to move upmarket, then it's not like they can't offer it to other trim models.
#2322 of 2332 '06 Suzuki Grand Vitara
by rsholland
Aug 06, 2005 (3:20 pm)
http://www.06grandvitara.com/
I sure hope the next generation Forester is like this new Grand Vitara:
• Full-size spare
• Full time AWD, high and low ranges that lock in 4WD, and Neutral.
• Traction Control
• ESP
• IFS/IRS
• True off-road capability.
• 5-speed automatic
While it's not mentioned on this teaser site, I suspect it has 3000 pounds towing, as that's what the current XL7 has. The 2.7L 185 HP V6 is more powerful than the the Forester H-4, but less so than Subie turbos or the H-6. It seems to be a very good compromise in size and power.
This site mentions the Rav4, so I think it's save to assume the Forester is also a target vehicle for this Suzuki.
Bob