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#1 of 2332 Bring over the B11S
Mar 12, 2003 (7:17 am)
And I'll buy it tomorrow. I'll sell my beloved Trooper in a heartbeat!
Now onto more serious things...
All Weather Package in the WRX Please.
And Leather and moonroof on the Forester XT.
#2 of 2332 AWP in the WRX wagon
Mar 12, 2003 (7:27 am)
Hopefully the preliminary information is wrong. It looks like people are already crossing the 04 WRX wagon off of their list because of this.
Mar 12, 2003 (8:28 am)
And Leather and moonroof option on the Forester XT with manual tranny that is.
#4 of 2332 My turn :)
Mar 12, 2003 (8:49 am)
In the spirit of launching this new forum, here are a few suggestions:
• It's ironic, that the new STi has the best cruise-control stalk of any Subie offered in North America. This car—of all Subarus—is probably the one in which cruise control will be least used!
What's so good about the STi's cruise control stalk? Very simply, the on/off switch is now contained at the very end of the stalk, like what Toyota and a few others do. All the cruise control functions are now contained in one very easy-to-use location. I never did like having the on/off switch on the dash.
Now if only they get the cruise control "engaged" light to only work when it is engaged (not just "on"), I'll be a very happy camper!
So SOA, please give all Subies the STi's cruise control stalk!
• I would expect the up-coming all-new Legacy to expand the use of VTD.
• I would expect the up-coming all-new Legacy to offer dual-zone climate control on top-of-the-line models.
• I would expect the up-coming all-new Outback to combine the LL Bean and VDC models into one model.
• Let's give the WRX an ambient temperature gauge—please...
• I'm with Paisan: The B11S concept is a perfect replacement for the SVX! It also sets the right direction (IMHO) for future Subies, in terms of styling!
#5 of 2332 Cruise on stalk
Mar 12, 2003 (8:52 am)
I'm gonna have to disagree. I like the on-dash button and wheel mounted controls. Why you ask?
Well for reliability. How many times have wee seen the delicate stalk controls break over time? I think having a hard button on the dash for On/Off and the semi-hard controls on the steering wheel lead to a longer lifespan. As an example, the cruise control switch on my '88 XT6 was still working w/o issue 12-13years after production.
#6 of 2332 Moonroof and Leather
Mar 12, 2003 (8:52 am)
Should be standard on the XT with Manual, why you ask? For production reasons, if you make the moonroof and leather optional, then you increase your costs exponentially.
Mar 12, 2003 (9:07 am)
I have to disagree with your cruise control reliability assessment. I don't think the location has anything to do with reliability.
The stalk is far more intuitive than having buttons on the steering wheel. Push up on the stalk to accelerate/resume. Push down on the stalk to lower the speed/set. Pull the stalk towards you to cancel.
I have both set-ups: My Explorer has buttons on the steering wheel (as did my previous Hondas) and our Forester has the stalk. I can use the Foresters stalk at night and never worry about hitting the "right" button. I don't even have to look for it. Give me the stalk any day of the week.
Mar 12, 2003 (9:40 am)
* Build the B11S! What a beautiful halo car that would make. Keep the styling and spread it across the range.
* WRX wagon deserves the AWP and moonroof option too
* Forester XT 5 speed should be offered with the Premium package
Mar 12, 2003 (9:53 am)
Mike- I disagree that SOA should make leather and moonroof standard on the XT cause it would inflate the price too much. I think they should just offer the same premium package option that already exists for the XS but allow it for the MT also.
Here's a big one- Offer a choice of transmissions (AT or MT) for the H-6!
Mar 12, 2003 (10:02 am)
OK, I'm going to rehash some things here for the sake of having them all in one spot...
Brian's feature wish list for the Subaru line-up:
1) True class II towing on the Outback, Forester and Baja, i.e. 3500# + 800# in the tow vehicle after tongue weight. Most if not all of Volvo's entire line will tow 3300# now.
2) 6MT on the 2.5NA engine, with 5 & 6 overdriven (5th at highway speeds is too "tall", gets noisy) Not sure how you're gearing the 2.5T, but do the same if you're turning 3000+ at 80.
3) I want a Forester XT MT with the premium package, sans leather and automatic - the way you sold it in '01.
4) Dump the group 35 battery in the Forester (and everywhere else you're using it). I want a real battery. You could bundle a bigger battery with the AWP, a towing package, or both. 320CCA is a joke, to put it bluntly. Aftermarket availability (>600CCA) in a group 35 is severely limited - durability of high capacity batteries in this size is poor due to plate density. It gets cold in the mountains!
5) Make the dual range center diff an option in our market, at least for the Forester and Baja. Bundle it with add'l bracing and anti-skid plates in an off-road package.
6) The whole world is going to 5AT's. Please do so too.
7) If you grafted your drivetrain (3.0l H-6) to a Mazda MPV, I'd buy one tomorrow. Really. Can I order today? OK, add an inch to the MPV's track width. It looks tall and narrow. Pretty please?
8) Don't make the Forester bigger. Keep it "right-sized" and nimble. Offer a bigger model in the lineup instead.
9) Put the real mid-gate back in the Baja. Make the 2.5T standard. Go with 5 passenger seating. Dump the cladding or make it optional ("Sport"). Dump the glitzy features or make them optional (XS or premium package). See Bob for details.