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#681 of 932 Questions re: getting in a porsche for the first time.
Aug 30, 2006 (5:37 pm)
Hey all - been reading around, and this is my first post in this forum.. I live in Canada, and currently drive two vehicles.. a 2006 Land Rover LR3 HSE, and a 1997 Dodge Avenger ES.
I am looking at a time soon to come where the Avenger is going to start costing me a lot of money to keep up, and I would like to replace it with an affordable Boxster from the 90's (budget is a big consideration with the cost of the LR3 lease payment weighing me down every month).
Is there a particular strategy to going about looking for that perfect used Boxster? Are there demand years, demand packages, or things to avoid I should know about?
Thank you in advance!
#682 of 932 Re: Questions re: getting in a porsche for the first time. [dandrews1]
Aug 31, 2006 (1:43 am)
Far be it from me to want to discourage anyone from joining the Porsche family, but your statement....
"Avenger is going to start costing me a lot of money to keep up, and I would like to replace it with an affordable Boxster from the 90's (budget is a big consideration with the cost of the LR3 lease payment weighing me down every month)."
...has me wondering if a 7+ year old Boxster is going to take you out of the frying pan and into the fire. I'm not sure if you can get an extended warranty on that old of a Boxster. Porsche repair bills for specific items would likely make the Dodge you have look like a bargain. Not to say the Boxster would break down as much, but each visit to the dealership would have a starting price equal, to say, the monthly payment on a new Honda S2000.
When my budget was tighter, I bought a new Honda S2000 in November, 2001 (model year 2002) for $32k, drove it for 2.5 years and 20k miles and traded it for $23.2k in May 2004. You could actually get a better deal on a new one today (around $30.5k), and had I kept the car for another 2+ years, it would still be worth over $20k. During that time, my grand total maintenance costs were under $350, covering 7,500 mile service, 15,000 mile service and interim Mobil One oil changes. Clearly, for those on a budget for a high performance sports car, the Honda S2000 is the pinnacle of frugality. Not to mention that the S2000 significantly outperforms the base Boxster and the Boxster S up until the 2005 (280 hp) model. An early Boxster, with 199hp, would feel anemic by comparison.
If your heart is set on owning a Porsche, just make sure your wallet is in synch. You couldn't pry the steering wheel of our 911S out of my hands, but I really wouldn't enjoy it if I were worried about a $500 mile basic service that is coming up. Or a $1,600 mile major service down the road. And yet, even I don't want to face Porsche repair bills and, if I decide to keep it beyond 4/50, will likely get an extended warranty (which runs $4,500 compared to $900 for the S2000).
Good luck. I'm not trying to discourage you, just offer my perspective.
#683 of 932 Re: New 05 vs new 06 Boxster [tomk17]
Aug 31, 2006 (5:23 pm)
You should be getting at least 20% off MSRP on that 05.
As far as the 18" wheels, I don't think they are harsh even though the 18s are harsher on the 986. The current tires on the 987 have a larger diameter so the tire profile on the 18s are wider than the older 18s. Also, the suspensions on the 987 are considerably different and account for smoother shock absorption even with 19s as compared with 986.
#684 of 932 Re: Questions re: getting in a porsche for the first time. [habitat1]
Aug 31, 2006 (5:56 pm)
...I really wouldn't enjoy it if I were worried about a $500 mile basic service that is coming up.
Which service is that? My 15K service cost $675 plus tax. This includes oil and misc filters. And I recently paid $560 plus tax for an oil change and brake flush. I also had an oil change for about $310 at 7500 mi. That comes to about $1620 (tax incl) for routine service and 3 oil changes in 2 3/4 years, 23K miles. Then there was the $1140 (tax incl) for the new set of Michelin Pilot Sports I had put on at 15K miles.
Yeah I'd say the S2000 is the frugal buy... also a BMW with free maintenance. My 03 530 hasn't cost a dime so far. They even gave me free oil changes at 7500 mi intervals instead of the scheduled 15k.
#685 of 932 What are Service Requirements Over first 2-3 years?
Sep 01, 2006 (7:11 am)
I'm dangerously close to buying a base Boxster and having not seen an owners manual, what are the service requirements over the first few years and say 30K miles? I know the oil change intervals are way up to 20K but what else is there? Air filter at 20K also? That should be it. Sounds like tires burn out at about 20K also.
#686 of 932 Re: Questions re: getting in a porsche for the first time. [habitat1]
Sep 01, 2006 (10:15 am)
Really, I was set on the porsche... I'm not so hot on the S2000 asthetic.. also not out of the realms of consideration is a 90's 911 (non-turbo).
I recently walked away from buying a Cayenne, and was very impressed with it's handling for a SUV - eventually went for a Land Rover LR3 due to it's more utilitarian off-road capabilities.
But the Porsche driving experience whet my appetite for what their cars would drive like... I haven't had a chance to drive older (90's) boxtsers and 911's, but the new ones have me falling in love with them.
I just can't afford two large car payments - ergo the comment about wanting to try the older ones first to keep the cost down. Now I'm a bit split on what I should be aiming for? Possibly something on an early lease return where the first guy has dropped a lot down on it, and it has a low monthly rate?
#687 of 932 Re: Questions re: getting in a porsche for the first time. [designman]
Sep 01, 2006 (3:42 pm)
The $500 "basic service" I was referring to was an oil/filter change, brake, coolant and other fluid top-offs and thorough inspection of the vehicle at 10,000 miles. This is optional, according to my dealer. The 997 is not due for it's first scheduled service until 2 years or 20,000 miles. But I'd prefer to have them check it out every year. The 2/20 service runs about $650, as they include air filter and actually change the other fluids.
#688 of 932 Windstop Worth It?
Sep 04, 2006 (3:31 pm)
I'm looking at two 05' Boxsters 1 has the windstop the other does not. I'm not squawking about the $300 cost, I wish both cars had it but other options and colors further differentiate the cars. Will I be disappointed without it? Is cockpit wind "significantly" reduced or just a bit? Sales guy says he can't really tell the difference. Any input appreciated.
#689 of 932 Re: Windstop Worth It? [tomk17]
Sep 04, 2006 (3:51 pm)
I've hardly ever used the windstop in my 911 as it eliminates access to the jump seats and I've not noticed excessive wind noise or turbulence. I doubt it would make much difference in the Boxster.
However, a more relevant question is: can't it be ordered separately from Porsche? You should check with the parts department. If I can get a Porsche sport shifter from Porsche and have it installed by the dealer at roughly the same cost as ordering one on a new car, I would be surprised if you couldn't do the same with a non-mechanical item like the windstop.
Sep 09, 2006 (8:35 am)
My 2000 Boxster had the windstop. If you are going to do any long distance, high speed driving and want to carry on a normal level conversation then you will need it. It also does cut down the wind turbulence in the cockpit.
Given the outrageous prices on some of the Porsche options, this $300 piece of plastic seems to be worthwhile.