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#1 of 886 Shopping for Porsche Boxster S by 1175must Mar 11, 2003 (6:37 pm)
I've been offered $2500 over invoice for a brand new 03 BMW M3 and $1000 over invoice for a brand new 03 Boxster S. I'm leaning toward the Boxster. Are these good offers? Replies to this message: visor (Feb 28, 2005 11:35 pm) agentstirling (Sep 21, 2006 3:28 pm) nacnudskram (May 02, 2007 8:58 am) bccheng (May 02, 2007 1:55 pm)
#2 of 886 1175must by habitat1 Mar 12, 2003 (5:54 am)
I seriously considered both cars prior to opting for the cheap alternative of a Honda S2000 in November 2001.   Of the deals you have been offered, I'd be tempted to go with the M3. Although it's less of a discount over invoice, I haven't heard of hardly any discounting on the M3, period. And they appear to be holding their value extremely well. The Boxster S, on the other hand, has been dropping considerably in resale value. I have seen 2001's with low milage, mint condition offered for sale in the high $30's here in the DC area. A friend looked at a 2002 with 5,600 miles for $41,900 ($60k+ sticker). And, frankly, while I think the Boxster S is an exceptional car, I didn't think it was worth $25k+ (new) over the S2000 in performance or amenities. Not to mention that my "fun" car needs to be low maintenance and high reliability. The M3 is more versitile and, although perhaps not quite the sharp edged handler of the smaller roadsters, has enormous power to spare.   I think Porsche has been forced into discounting the Boxsters because of slack demand and overinflated MSRP's, especially with their "the steering wheel is optional" approach to options. I am not sure why a BMW dealer would need to discount the M3.   Is the M3 deal for a new car ordered to your specifications, or one that is sitting on the showroom floor? If it's the former, I wouldn't mind that deal if you decide not to take it.
#3 of 886 by SPYDER98 Mar 12, 2003 (6:22 am)
is it really worth buying this car new?   http://www.luxurycars.com/cgi-bin/imports1/p1661536?W7Uqmb8A;;34
#5 of 886 by 1175must Mar 12, 2003 (9:06 am)
Somebody ordered the M3 but backed out so its still sitting at the dealer. I'm not so sure about the SMG feature. I'm also considering TipS so that my better half can drive it once in a while. I can't compromise too much with a S2000 (by the way a great car!) when considering a non-manual driver. The flood of base Boxster inventory is pretty serious and as low as $48k for a brand new 03 so my thinking is that a new Boxster S with nice options (albeit eventually worthless)can be had at 1k-2k over invoice isn't too bad.
#6 of 886 Spyder98 - is it true in Cali as well? by kevin111 Mar 13, 2003 (9:21 am)
With the great weather we have in California, I could see a Boxster S being sold for more used out here.   - BTW, that is a great deal for a sports car!
#7 of 886 by SPYDER98 Mar 13, 2003 (9:44 am)
I would think most people in Cali would be lucky to get MSRP for anything these days..
#8 of 886 by 1175must Mar 13, 2003 (7:08 pm)
MSRP could be a thing of the past if the economy keeps slipping downward and in light of war. With gas prices reaching $4/gal here, people will drive less (especially gas-guzzling sports cars). Reasons I've not looked into used Boxster S are: glass rear window and minor mechanical improvements to the 03s. The dealer I'm speaking with is firm at $1150 over invoice and stated that "its the cheapest S he's ever sold." We'll see I guess.
#9 of 886 1175must by habitat1 Mar 14, 2003 (5:05 am)
Not to repeat myself, but if you intend to keep a Boxster S for a long time and don't care about resale, a new 2003 at $1,150 over invoice might be a good deal. But, based upon my previous analysis on my purchase decision, the $55-60k Boxster S will depreciate $20k in the next 2 years. You can bank on that.   There is a loaded 2002 911 C2 Cabriolet with 6,500 miles advertised in today's Washington Post for $73k (purportedly stickered for $90k+ new). I'm guessing the (private) owner would accept something in the high $60's, since they are also advertising a CLK430 convertible for sale. If you can afford an extra $10k, a near-new 911 convertible would be a better 2-3 year investment than a Boxster S, IMO.   But again, if your heart is into a new Boxster S and you are going to keep it long enough where resale isn't an issue, cut the best deal you can. Replies to this message: boxster1 (May 19, 2005 11:34 am)
#10 of 886 where are you located? by tm255 Apr 04, 2003 (9:07 am)
2500/1000 over invoice are great prices, based on what i've encountered in my shopping. where are these dealers? best i've come across (although i've primarily focused on used cars) is $1k off msrp on either the boxster S or the M3.   the new boxster will take a depreciation hit, but for $1K over invoice it may not be too bad a way to go. you get the glass rear window, spec the car the way you want it, full warranty, and you KNOW the history of the car.   the SMG is really unique but from what i can tell it is not suited for everyone. it does not operate exactly like a "regular" auto in auto mode, for example because it does not have a torque converter.

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