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#923 of 932 New Boxter
Sep 26, 2012 (10:40 am)
I am considering buying a Boxster. There isn't much news about the newer model, are they better and more reliable than before (I am expecting more to own this car but certainly don't want a money pit) ? Dealer has a 2012 loaded around the price of a base 2013, should I go for 12' or 13'?
#925 of 932 Identifying Porsche Engine Designs
Jan 21, 2013 (12:28 pm)
I'm considering buying a used Porsche Boxster or Boxster S, and have become aware of the intermediate shaft (IMS) bearing failure problem that has destroyed some M96 and M97 engines.
I also understand that the later 9A1 (aka MA1) engine design is much simpler, having no intermediate shaft or IMS bearing to fail. My question is: When I'm looking over a used Porsche as a potential buyer, how can I tell, unambiguously, whether the engine in the car is a M96, a M97 or a 9A1 design?
P.S. I've got conflicting information regarding which model year cars were built with the different engines.
#926 of 932 Re: Identifying Porsche Engine Designs [uswaiter]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Jan 21, 2013 (1:10 pm)
2009 and up should have the 9A1 engine.
However, there are retrofit kits available for the earlier engines.
you can test for IMS bearing failure by cutting the oil filter in half and looking for tell-tale debris. If you catch it in time, you can install the upgrade kit (something like $3,000 installed).
Most IMS bearing failures recorded come from 1997-2004 cars. So it's unlikely, but not impossible, that a 2004-2008 engine will do this. In fact there are many 1997-2004 engines that have been driven hard for 200,000 miles and have never had a failure. This is why sawing the oil filter in half is a good way to check.
Also, on a Boxster you can pretty much count on clutch failure around 80,000 miles. In fact, you should budget for it.
By all means get an "S" if you can afford it. The regular 2.7 is not that fast.
#927 of 932 2013 Porsche Boxster Convertible
by Claire@Edmunds HOST
Sep 18, 2012 (10:36 pm)
"Here are two things you might want to know about the new 2013 Porsche Boxster S. First, its lateral acceleration, at a nice even 1.0g, is better than the lightweight, wholly uncompromised, utterly focused, bikini-top-wearing 2011 Porsche Boxster Spyder.
Second, its 72.8-mph slalom speed happens to be better than the last all-new 2012 Porsche 911 Carrera S we tested. Clearly, this car is far from entry-level."
Read the rest of the road test notes.
#928 of 932 Drove it yesterday...
Sep 24, 2012 (4:59 am)
...at Summit Point Raceway at a Porsche sponsored driving event.
Unfortunately, all the cars we drove: 4 Panameras, 4 Carrera S's, 2 Boxster S's were all PDK's so I didn't get a chance to drive the manual transmission Boxster S that I would likely order for myself.
But the experience was, nonetheless, impressive. I don't think I'd put the Boxster S as close to the new (991) 911S as the Edmund's reviewer did, at least with regard to acceleration. But, compared to my former 997 911S Cab, and in my hands, the Boxster S may have been quicker around the track with less white in my knuckles showing. It's a very easy car to drive well, as even my wife came out of the drivers seat with a big grin. (Compared to the dizzy look she had after sitting in the passenger seat with me at the wheel of a 911S).
This is one tight little car. In 2005, I found the Boxster S back then to be very good, but insufficiently better than my former S2000 to warrant a 2x price. Today, I find the Boxster S to be improved in all performance categories - not to mention much better looking inside and out - to warrant a price that's 20% higher than I was looking at in 2005. I think if you are smart with the options - sport chrono, PASM, Premium w/adaptive sport seats, infotainment - you should be able to keep the MSRP to around $75,000 and negotiate a 5-6% discount for a net price of $71,000 +/-. That's not cheap by any means, but there really isn't anything short of a more expensive 911 or Ferrari that will give you the same driving experience. The SLK, Z4, and other cars at a similar or lower price point are not remotely close in handling precision or driving experience. Lotus, maybe, but they are uncomfortable tin cans that spend too much time in the shop. Perhaps Honda needs to come out with an S3000. But until they do, the Boxster S is in a league of its own IMO.
#929 of 932 Oil Changes and other maintenance
Apr 13, 2012 (10:11 am)
Drained of dollars and time by the local Porsche dealership, I tried to take my Boxster to Jiffy Lube for an oil change. They said, "Only the dealer can change the oil on these." Doubtful, I drove a mile to another nearby Jiffy Lube, where they told me that it would take about 20 minutes for all the oil to drain out, and that they don't carry the filters, so I'd have to go buy one at the Porsche dealer. Instead, I drove to Autozone, and bought a FRAM filter. Anything wrong with any of this?
Also, my Boxster is low mileage -- 40 K now. I have heard mixed things about timing belt/tensioner maintenance. Any input? Thanks!
#930 of 932 oil change oil
Aug 19, 2013 (1:44 am)
yaa oil chnage is necesary.otherwise it wil decrease my car milage.bt the oil filters can be interchanged if they are same depending upon the cars.
#931 of 932 Re: Drove it yesterday... [habitat1]
Aug 19, 2013 (9:49 am)
Habitat - nice to hear your impressions of the new Boxster S. and also, good to see you still hanging out at town hall my friend;)
#932 of 932 Re: Drove it yesterday... [habitat1]
Aug 19, 2013 (6:42 pm)
Still wishing for that S3000 I see.
I also appreciate your review of the Boxster S. A beautiful car in so many ways - amd arguably the best car in Porches current lineup.
I do think, like all current Porsches, it has gotten too big. It makes my 993 look like a toy (in a good way).