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1381 messages, Last post on Nov 26, 2009 at 12:56 PM
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You need to have "repetitive or unrepaired problems" that "substantially impair the use, safety or value" of a vehicle - (Magnusson-Moss Warranty Improvement Act. You don't have to wait 18 months - the problems have to have had occured within the FIRST 18 months of ownership. Additionally, a vehicle doesn't have to meet the requirement of your state's lemon law for you to seek damages under Mag-Moss. |
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| but it takes time to build a case. Plus, Lexus may fix the problem in which case, there is no need to push the issue. I am in a wait and see position myself, as I am sure, many other 2002 ES300 owners are. | |
| I certainly know what a "lemon" is - I've seen about 4,000 of them in the last 2 years! That word is overused to describe vehicles that don't meet the guidelines. | |
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While the transmission and lean engine stumble issues are annoying, they may not meet the Lemon Law guidelines. I am not going to waste my time fighting Lexus. Its not worth it. I told them about the problems which they admitted to me. The dealer has been really great in trying to help me out, but they don't have a fix. This decision needs to come from Toyota Sr. Mgmt. |
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thanks for your very detailed analysis and i will try to perform many sudden acceleration during the test drive. i am also considering some other cars: TL, 325i, A4 3.0 and accord V6. you have any experiences with these cars? A4 3.0 - very good fit and finish; you open the hood and the layout of the engine is very nice; interior quality is very good except the position of the hand brake is awkward; test drove it twice and i think the exhaust is a bit loud TL - average fit and finish; paint isn't good as i expected and the interior is rather dumb, so i didn't test drive it 325i - test drove a 330i two years ago and it was the best at that time; will test drive it soon but in my opinion, the options are expensive accord - haven't been to the dealer yet ES300 - the styling is pretty elegant and the fit and finish is good; very comfortable and lots of leg room but there is one thing i don't like: have you noticed the tailpipe has a very large clearance with the chasis and it is like hanging loose and i don't understand why toyota would make this mistake because i have noticed corolla and camry also have this problem. |
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Consumer review Consumer guide rate ES300 at 70 point... highest score in its class (http://auto.consumerguide.com/auto/new/reviews/full/index.cfm/id- /23264.htm) You should read Consumer report Auto buying guide 03 (come out this month April) TL and ES300 are recommended... Accord V6 (240hp) is also a nice car I didn't pay attention at other cars... About Reliability: TL top then ES300 (better than avg).... 3 series on the other side (worse than avg) A4 and 3 series: They are kind of small.. about the size of corolla or civic... (I even feel the back seat has less room) My friend got his 325 last Dec... his car is fine.. he doesn't have any problem yet...it's a nice car.. but I can't sit in the back of his car... I consider they are like a luxury version of honda civic with rear wheel drive - I would not go for A4 or 3 series... If you like rear wheel drive performance... go for IS300 or G35 (260hp - motor trend car of the year) - Accord V6... good value, strong performance, nice car, close but not reach luxury level yet... (save a place for TL) - TL (a luxury version of Accord)...03 is the last year model... the new design 04 is comming soon - ES300 (a luxury version of Camry with a lot of borrowing from LS430) is a family sedan with conservative driving... if you like to enjoy driving.. Lexus also has IS or GS |
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Here are how I choose my car.. hope it may help.. - Find out all cars in market that in the range that you think you can afford.. (if you are not rush.. look for future cars too... own the car we like is priceless... thus... it's worth to wait) - Eliminate cars that you don't like - Research (internet, news, friends) for the cars that on the list . concentrate on reliability... and don't care much about performance (you should do the drive test yourself) or style (people's styles are different) . listen for advice... and make decision yourself... . don't forget to check the insurance rate (you will be suprised to find out.. Accord is little bit higher than more expensive ES) . you should also take a look at "true cost to own" from edmuns.. thus you can check with your bugde... . narrow your list by eliminate cars that have too much trouble - Go to dealers... have close look, have personal feeling and drive test the car... - Your list now should have very few cars . good reliability . in the range you can afford. . pass all of your research - Finally, go with your feeling and your heart... if you are still not sure.. why not drive test again and again... try to do all of them in the same days... |
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Greetings all: I have been the proud owner of a 2002 ES300 (everything but AVS) for nearly nine months and have yet to experience the transmission issue that has plagued some owners. My vehicle was manufactured in June 2002, and I purchased it in mid-July of 2002. I have a bit over 7,000 perfect miles and look forward to many more. Most of my driving is highway and the car accelerates in a very smooth manner without any kicks, jiggling or abrupt shifting. I was out and about today in the Lexus and payed very close attention to the behavior of the transmission and did notice a slight 'lugging' at 40-45 mph and the RPM's were about 1,400, maybe less. I then pressed the accelerator and the car downshifted and accelerated without delay or hesitation. I have used premium since day one, changed the oil twice in 7,000 miles with Mobil-1 5W30 and have nothing but praise for this finely crafted automobile. I have monitored this forum for some time and do hope that those with the tranny problem will be provided a 'fix' by Lexus. I feel I made the best choice in purchasing this car and I would to it all over again if given the chance. Smooth and serene motoring to all! M. J. McCloskey |
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Daytona01 claims his research on this board yielded many complaints of transmission problems on '02 models, but few or none on '03s. Is this true? Anybody with an '03 having the common transmission problems discussed here? Please report. If not, maybe Lexus fixed the problem after all. |
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