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1381 messages, Last post on Nov 26, 2009 at 12:56 PM
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You have both described my ES' transmission "issues" very precisely. "It's the darned hills" or coasting to a stop when the car surges as it down shifts from 5 to 4. I am also "learning" to live with it and adjust my driving patterns to avoid "quickie" starts and stops. I also have felt an improvement when I drive in 4 rather than D - only below 50mph. Otherwise I have been happy with the car, but it is clearly not a "performance" car and it doesn't like to be driven aggressively. I am not completely satisfied because the new ES transmission clearly is NOT UP TO THE STANDARDS of any Lexus or Toyota product I have ever owned or driven. I haven't decided whether to do the upgrade or not. Can either of you convince me one way or the other?? |
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I am not upgrading because of reports on this thread from folks who have upgraded. Those who have the upgrade report that there are different problems. I can live with the problem the way it is. It is an issue of not wanting to trade the known for the unknown. |
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When you described your car's transmission as "exhibiting worse behavior below 32 degrees than when it's warmer outside", was your car completely warmed up or was the ENGINE also cold (first few miles) when you noticed the problem?? I live in the upper midwest and have noticed more problems since late fall, but it seems to be intermittent (one time it's fine, the next trip - "surge"). |
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| I found a lawyer and will be talking with him Friday. Wish me luck. I already got a new car via this bad transmission thru lemon law hearing. I don't want another Lexus if I'm successful. You never know, the lawyer idea could flop. Nothing's guaranteed, but I can guarantee I will not succumb to altering my world to appease my transmission... ie. driving in 4th gear, avoiding hills, driving only when it's warm, avoiding stop signs, or having to hold my tongue a certain way for good luck. If you do that and you accept it as top of the line quality which you paid EXTRA for.... then you get what you deserve. | |
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"Holding your tongue", as you put it, doesn't seem to be your problem anyway. Best of luck with your lawyer. Channel your energies through him/her. Lexus is the target. |
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| My 2002 Lexus has VSC and all of the options sold by Lexus. Refer back to my description in message 383. The car is excellent except for the transmission problem which was not improved with the software change. All that has happened is that the shifting points occur at higher RPMs and the gas mileage seems to be worse. Not an improvement. Other problems that I have has was tire noise so I changed the tires at 22,000 miles, rear window screen problem which was satifactorily corrected, warped rotor on the right front wheel. The rest seems to be fine. I do love my car but I am afraid to drive it on the freeway during stop and go traffic due to its questionable responsiveness. I feel that it is reprehensible that Lexus has not fixed this or responded with other than a reprogram. I will contact the service rep at my next service which will be within the next month | |
| Complaining amongst ourselves has not yet been too productive. I notice that on www.autosafety.org, I am the only one to have registered a complaint about my ES300's transmission. And that is after two years of complaints and 402 messages on this board. Perhaps making our problem more public would accomplish something. There is nothing like a knowlegable buying public and a drop in sales to motivate a manufacturer. | |
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I am extremely surprised to hear that Lexus 2003-04 ES300 or ES330 owners are still having problems with their transmissions. I bought a 2002 ES300 and felt really frustrated with the way in which Lexus dealt with the whole issue. I had some very weird experiences with the service advisors. After one year of ownership, I got a lemon lawyer and got my money back. If you have a mechanical problem that admittedly cannot be fixed by the dealerships, and your vehicle manufacturer does not work with you, then go get your four repair attempts and your money back. Simple. Good luck to you all. I hope your future car experiences are much more enjoyable. |
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